Carnage lies ahead but I suspect we all realise that.

Afghan govt delegation, Taliban discuss peace talks



https://www.afghanistannews.net/news...ss-peace-talks

We can't have this thread disappearing yet, the video in the link gives a bit of insight to exactly what the Taliban is or are.

Who are the Taliban? | Start Here
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainm...?ocid=msedgdhp

Good video, but the difference between Russia and the US seems to be that the Taliban received wepaons from the US to get rid of Russians, while the Taliban did not need support for getting out foreign forces now.
And after this it will be all like 40 years ago?

?? isn't Taliban supported by some countries in the Middle East ?

Seem to recall some article where it said Taliban got support from..

Markus

Yes there are some, but i take it the main support for the Taliban is coming from their international customers like us, read buying drugs and noble/rare earths and resources from them. You can even read this in the media if you know what to look for.

It won't be long before the Afghan government capitulate, I didn't think the Taliban would find it so easy against the security forces, this will turn into a rout in much less than a year.

Afghan president replaces two top ministers, army chief as violence grows
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...?ocid=msedgntp

https://th.bing.com/th/id/R7cd08ff13...sl=&pid=ImgRaw

I remember when the Taliban used to be the good guys......

Those aren't Taliban, they are Mujaheddin. Just because they wear similar hats doesn't make them all the same you know.

It all goes back to the long-standing moral equivocations of US foreign policy: "they may be SOBs, but they're our SOBs..."...




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A sign of desperation or a decisive tactical move, these killer militias helped to oust the Taliban 20 years ago but I don't think they'll be doing that this time.
This is the last throw of the dice for the Afghan government, if this latest initiative fails the disillusioned Security Forces will melt away into the hills soon to be followed by the government.
Many of the citizens will hopefully survive the Taliban reprisals but their will be bloodletting, and lots of it. :o

Taliban gains drive Afghan government to recruit militias
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...edgdhp&pc=U531

The Germans are out. German media report the last 250 German soldiers have been flown out this evening, with several transports, to Tiflis, Georgia.

On the height of the engagement, up to 1300 BW soldiers were based in afghansitan. The 20 years costed the lives of 59, 35 of them in combat and bomb assaults.

A female veteran whose interview I red some weeks ago, said just this for a closing: "Heck, we have been so naive to even get engaged there. So many illusions!"

Bagram airbase fully evacuated and handed over to the Afghan army. Last major troop contingents of ISAF are out. Plunderers already inside the perimeter, it is reported. Tells something of the success of the training programs westenr armies ran on Afghan forces. Not that this enlightenment comes as something new.

No way to weasel around it: its another, the latest strategic defeat in a string of such defeats. Calling it differently, is glossing over it.

Western intelligence service take bets whether the Taliban take 6 months to capture Kabul - or even less. That the Afhghan government gets toppled, is almost taken for granted.

Bad for the civilian population, especially the females. But the outcome was predictable, and staying longer would not have changed anything. Not changing while lasting. Change only lasting under the guard of the bajonets, is no change, just a deadlock.

No longer trapped in the Afghan maze, but out of it - finally.

Nobody is talking about what happens to all the Afghanis who worked for us over the years.

Not so.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U37WMmZ4r_M