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Originally Posted by em2nought (Post 2674547)

semi-automatic rifles

That remained unused too. As opposed to Antifa leftists throwing bricks and molotov cocktails, burning down buildings, attacking people for being white etc.

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Automatic rifles indeed were seen just weeks ago, in three democrats-ruled states that saw their capitol halls stormed by heavily armed "patriots" in masks.

Kind of ironic if you think about it, a few weeks ago there were armed protests all across the country. there were no riots, looting or arsons. No teargas or rubber bullets were used, and there were few if any arrests for protesting.

Fast forward, and you have unarmed (supposedly) protests, and there is rioting, looting, arsons, assaults and murders. Curfews have been imposed, mass arrests made, and the National guard has been activated.

Go Figure. :nope:

At the store I work at we where told to bring the box bales inside if we didn't do a reload in case of looters.... and yet left a ton of pallets outside. I guess a rectangle of cardboard is more valuable then a bunch of planks nailed together.

I'm sorry Catfish maybe your were just being sarcastic :hmmm:

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Originally Posted by Catfish

To fuel the fire? Because "white supremists" are often not very rich? More often than not white supremists have guns.
Where are all the left wing terrorists of the last years, when and where did they perpetrate crimes and terrorist acts, where are their guns, where are they hiding?

They even have video tape of people in black paying people cash to set up barriers.

I thought it would be over but the looters have now gone after Macy's in New York and I saw a fire on top of Macy's building too.

What a sad day for America ... back in the Old Testament days an old lady came out and said to the army coming against them, "what do you want"? and the commander said we want the head of the man we are after" She said you will have it by morning and then the next day she threw his head over the wall and the army went way. :yep:

This could've been all averted by giving them the policeman that wouldn't let George breathe, which I think they knew each other and could be a hate crime added too.

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the looters have now gone after Macy's in New York and I saw a fire on top of Macy's building too.

What sad days, I think most of these people are using the death of George Floyd as an excuse for rioting! :nope:

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Originally Posted by Reece (Post 2674569)

What sad days, I think most of these people are using the death of George Floyd as an excuse for rioting! :nope:

You got it right on that account. I'd bet many of the looters don't even know his name.

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What sad days, I think most of these people are using the death of George Floyd as an excuse for rioting!

Not excusing the rioters, but the state governments have some culpability for imposing their "lockdowns" for the last 2 months. people are frustrated and the killing of Floyd was the proverbial "straw that broke the camels back"

Yes I think it's a bit of both, adding up to one word - Frustration!! :hmmm:

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Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 2674504)

I was looking around for something beside the usual political mud slinging. Apparently there is a psychology to rioting and with todays access to instant media and communication it can spread like wildfire. On a side note, I never knew there were 2011 riots in England. :hmmm:

" [...] we have now found is that the rioters used their views of the police to define themselves collectively. Their sense of identity was key. Knowing and seeing others feeling the same way, across various locations, made the rioters feel that they were not alone, and emboldened them to riot too. [...]"

Link to the whole text Rockstar quoted is here:
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...4&postcount=67
Worth reading.

With reference to the 2011 riots in the UK, it spread like wild fire across the country.
Very similar to what is happening now in the US, a single incident in London and the (Protests) riots started all over and like mentioned in above posts, they weren't about the incident but an excuse to rob and cause chaos and a lot of damage.
If you were to stop and ask what they were rioting about most of them wouldn't know.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_England_riots

Col.

White supremacists pose as Antifa:

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/02/t...unt/index.html

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A Twitter account that tweeted a call to violence and claimed to be representing the position of "Antifa" was in fact created by a known white supremacist group, Twitter said Monday. The company removed the account. "This account violated our platform manipulation and spam policy, specifically the creation of fake accounts," a Twitter spokesperson said in a statement. "We took action after the account sent a Tweet inciting violence and broke the Twitter Rules."

Although the account only had a few hundred followers, it is an example of white supremacists seeking to inflame tensions in the United States by posing as left-wing activists online.

The revelation of the account comes as President Donald Trump increasingly blames left-wing activists for violence occurring at protests across America.

On Sunday, Trump tweeted he would designate Antifa a terrorist organization, despite the US government having no existing legal authority to do so.

The very idea that the violent far left anarchist group Antifa needs any encouragement to behave the way they do is laughable. The very obvious (to those who are looking) behaviour of this anti Fascist group is to behave like Fascists. Try to explain that.

An opinion piece from Der Tagesspiegel. I agree.

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It's true: Racism in the United States has not existed just since George Floyd was brutally killed by four white police officers in Minneapolis. It is open and hidden, systemic. If you want to see it, you see it. If you don't want to see it, you won't see it.

When George Floyd died, others died. Blacks in the US who develop Covid-19 are 2.4 times more likely to die of infection than whites and 2.2 times more likely than Asians and Latinos. Around 450 people have died of the coronavirus in Washington D.C., the country's capital. Eighty percent of them are black, but they make up just under 50 percent of the population.

Donald Trump also became President of the United States because his propaganda against Barack Obama's healthcare reform, the Affordable Care Act, caught on to white voters. Many of them opposed the taxpayers' money being used to improve the health care of blacks and Latinos.

Racial motives were mixed in from the start with the anger over the health reform. Taking the privileged white majority society into a community of solidarity with all Americans has been rejected as presumptuous.

Now Trump is reaping what he did not sow but fertilized well. The racism that once brought him into office should now ensure his re-election. Nothing else remains for him, no other card stands out. The recession and mass unemployment caused by the corona pandemic have drastically narrowed his range of topics. The result is bitter.

You can see a president walking the short walk from the White House to the opposite “St. John’s Episcopal Church ”released with tear gas. There he holds up a Bible and says: "We are the greatest country in the world." There is a president who threatens to "use the military and solve the problem quickly".

A president can be seen who does not say a word about racism, but swarms to his heart's content about "local terrorists", "criminals" and an "Antifa", which he wants to classify as a terrorist organization.

It is no coincidence that this president repeatedly mentions the second constitutional amendment that guarantees the right to possess weapons. Because that inspires some of his followers to use their methods to ensure law and order. It is no coincidence that this president uses every opportunity for polarization. He is waiting that there is looting so as not to have to talk about the causes of the nationwide rebellion.

Trumpet racism and his phobia of a "deep state" whose representatives want to overthrow him - the FBI, Wall Street, Silicon Valley, the media - are condensing like a burning glass these days. Apparently he projects his own guilty conscience onto his opponents' motives. Trump lives in a mad world from which he can no longer find out. He no longer turns his heart into a killer pit, but heart and pit have long since become one.

Almost three years ago, on July 4, 2017, just in time for the national holiday on which America celebrates its independence, the NPR broadcaster decided to try something new. The declaration of independence had been read on the radio for decades on this day. Now it should be spread in 112 tweets via Twitter.

What followed was an uprising by Trump loyalists who hadn't recognized the quotes. NPR had a mission, called for revolution, spread fake news and propaganda, it was said indignantly, some speculated that NPR's Twitter account had been hacked.

The United States Declaration of Independence is an outstanding document of political philosophy and a foundation of human rights teaching. The preamble states that all people are created equal and have inalienable rights. This included life, freedom and the pursuit of happiness.

A right of resistance is also formulated. If a form of government "becomes pernicious to these end purposes", be it "the right of the people to change or abolish them and to establish a new government". And further: If unlimited rule is to be established, it is the right of the people, "yes their duty", to overthrow such a government.

The sometimes angry reactions to the NPR tweets are revealing. They testify to a deep-seated fear - of overthrow, rebellion, resistance. That fear could be justified in the declaration of independence reinforces this fear.

Racism in the United States has not existed since Trump and not since George Floyd's death. But Trump's racism is compounding the problem. His calculation of being able to profile himself as a firefighter in a fire that he helped launch is sheer cynicism.

According to CNN, Trump is said to have barricaded himself in the White House bunker in recent days. If so, it would be the picture of his presidency in just one picture.

https://www.tagesspiegel.de/politik/.../25879720.html

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2674612)

According to CNN, Trump is said to have barricaded himself in the White House bunker in recent days. If so, it would be the picture of his presidency in one picture.

Another falsehood from CNN. President Trump and his family were taken to this secure bunker by Secret Service agents for a brief time with protesters clashing with police near the White House.

I love how everyone is trying to politicize this by arguing whether the violence is being done by far left or far right groups.

Who cares???

Both groups use the same tactics and they are all criminals in my view.