That's not my argument to make.

In this case "The Man" is the private owner of a private forum. You can call it whatever you like, but it's his house and his rules. My job is to enforce them. You can color it any way you like, but if you want to complain about them your beef is with him, not me.

Aaah, Political Correctness, the bogeyman of the 21st century. :har:

:ping:

Swearing alienates some people. This forum is not about alienating anyone. Further, ones reputation is his brand. What brand does SS want to present the world? What brand does Neal want to present the world? Can we enjoy one area of our lives were swearing is not required, necessary or welcomed? I certainly hear it enough elsewhere. Sometimes out of my own mouth as my brain catches up. :doh:

You liked that huh? I got more where that came from. :D

Oh I dont have a beef with anyone over anything. Im just trying to stay on topic is all. :)

Don't mix up Political Correctness with Respect. :)

There's way too much Political Correctness these days that is not correct. And way to little Respect from all ages towards others.

Respect is a two way street, some Political Correctness encourages people to respect each other and each others life choices, for some people that is far too much Political Correctness already.

I wonder what would happen if you got news headlines and removed Political Correctness and replaced it with 'treating people with respect'. :hmmm:

Oh wait...thanks Chrome. :O:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b0923c12bd4a91

Respect is a feeling one has for another normally based on their abilities, qualities or achievements, the choice is mine whether I deeply admire that person or not. On the other hand Political Correctness sole purpose is to attempt to take that choice away and demand that feeling regardless of who I think deserves my respect.

Here's my life choice is: I dont give a rats patoot about political correctness and it does not have my respect. Political correctness demands you admire this life choice.

I swear P.C. crowds are just like those televangelists trying to impose their religion on you.

And that is, as I see it, the big difference between us. To you, respect has to be earned. I freely give my respect to everyone until they prove they don't deserve it. I also assume that anyone I deal with is as good as, if not better than I am, until they show otherwise.

The way I see it respect as defined by a dictionary of the english language is deep admiration for another based on their qualities, abilities or achievements. Not to be confused with just being a good neighbhor, friend, affable, decent human being towards another.

You may make life choices that I do not respect but I may still be your friend and neighbhor.

That's a very good point. :sunny:

I see common ground between you: there often remain social pressures to extend respect to people for whom we do not feel it.

I once knew a woman who exhorted her children never to show respect to another person unless that person had earned it. I wanted to believe she was just expressing herself poorly, but she had ambitions to become a psychologist. I didn't feel much respect for her after that (though there was much else lacking in her behaviour... I could give a list) but common courtesy meant that I would continue to extend respect to her, but maybe that's more about being British :hmmm:

Of course, I wouldn't show this respect to someone who'd outright insulted me, but then who
would?

And what would I do if I ever met Justin Bieber?

I don't think that the original goal of PC was to make sure that you admire someone because of their life choice, but to encourage you to not discriminate against someone because of it. The way I look at it, and I've seemingly become the chief constable of the PC Police, is that if you don't like someones life choice, that's fair enough, but don't be an arse about it, like refusing service to them, or insulting them, or committing acts of violence against them, just because of this life choice.
Really, at the end of the day, the best law in this regard is Wheatons Law. :yep:

Neal's rules are not political correctness. Perhaps, if you lack understanding of his reasoning, it is best for you to look at his rules of engagement as the arbitrary choices of a man who needs not seek approval and who does not subject his ideas of right or wrong to a vote. There are two choices: comply or take your business elsewhere.

And that is as it should be. I admire Neal for making choices and exercising his right to control his own private property. Ownership has its privileges.