€20 says those tanks will soon fly a black flag with white inscription.

I wanted to take a moment and acknowledge a mistake I made earlier with regards to post # 57.

In fact the U.S also shot down an airliner of Iranian registry. Iran Air Flight 655 was shot down on July 3, 1988 by the Aegis-class cruiser, Vincennes. It was an Airbus A300

Quote :Iran Air continues to use flight number 655 on the Tehran to Dubai route as a memorial to the victims.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

My apologies for making this mistake.

I wonder Oberon, if those pictures of the tanks have anything to do with this buffer zone Turkey wants to set up in northern Syria? Another interesting thing on this article by the BBC is, that it show video footage taken by Turkey during one of the air attacks it did in northern Iraq. Clearly showing they violated Iraq air space. And Turkey made the videos,lol

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-33681215

there is a fairly complete list of civilian airliners shot down here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...down_incidents

if we all apoligised each time we make a mistake, that would take up entire threads. :D

Lol. Thanks Bilge Rat. Sometimes it doesn't pay to get out of bed . :D

They look like old M60 (Patton) main battle tanks. With that in mind I wouldnt bet against you.

I find it interesting to read what different expert say about this

Their "expertise" are very apocalyptic

WW III, soon end of the world a.s.o

Markus

depends on which religion they are an expert of.

Yeah that's a bit crude I mean you are flying military aircraft in a contested area might want to have something better than ebay GPS. Secured by a rubber band what happens under high G maneuvers?

Maybe they were using a Tom Tom?:/\\k:

Supplemental equipment for increase situational awareness. Not for navigation. You can find T-38A (USAF aircraft) use same setup.

Any Gefest upgraded Su24Ms have sat-nav receivers and screens.

The Russians destroyed a few hundered ISIS trucks delivering oil to Turkey. Several Turkish drivers were killed.
The Americans proclaim to have done similar attacks - after a 30 mins warning with airdropped leaflets for the present drivers
(some could be non-ISIS they say - hint hint!) - using some video footage showing the Russian attacks.

Why they didn't drop leaflets over the Afghan hospital to warn potential present non-Taliban is still unexplained.
Collateral damage seems to be no problem in killing suspects in Pakistan either.

The Turkish revenge was a downed Fencer, coming close to Turkish airspace.
Brilliant high tech footage - not that usual blurry smart phone material - of a burning jet in the sky was available immediately after the attack.
To me it seems, this was a setup trap for the Russians.

As a side note: the Turks claim a 5 miles zone into Syria to be their airspace. A Russian jet entering this zone would still be in Syrian airspace.

Same thing that tipped me off. Turkish army is a modern one and Pattons would be an outdated hardware. Reserve or training. And in case of Erdogan, killing-a-pilot-while-parachuting-out-of-jet bonus for the militia.

Ugh, you could mount a dinamo to the grave of Ataturk and have free power for the solar system :nope:

I wouldn't go that far.
Putin has as much interest of seeing Moscow burn as Hollande Paris, Cameron London or Obama DC.
It's a proxy war between superpowers being buggered up by morons (khm Erdogan) trying to be the next Suleiman the great.