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I'm getting beside myself with worry.

If Scotland vote for independence Britain won't have a curling team at the next winter Olympics.

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Originally Posted by TarJak (Post 2176572)

Smoked or fresh?

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Originally Posted by Tango589 (Post 2176605)

Tinned.

Probably poached :)

David Bowie: Scotland, stay with us.

Pack your bags folks, looks like all 5m Jocks are off to New York!

Alexei Salmon, Jacobite King in waiting and a descendant of William Wallace is set to charge down with a broadsword on horseback with Catalonian mercenaries and take the pasty faced Sassenachs by surprise when he wins the Independence referendum next spring :doh:

Watching the rhetoric heat up on both sides, I'm finding it more difficult to see how relations between the UK and Scotland can quite ever return to the status quo after the referendum, regardless of the vote.

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Originally Posted by Dread Knot (Post 2177175)

Well I certainly can't see England invading Scotland again should the vote go for independence :)

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2177180)

Well I certainly can't see England invading Scotland again should the vote go for independence :)

No, I don't see that either.

I think the sentiments will be along the lines of, "don't let the door hit you on the way out" and " write if you find work....if you can find work." :D

Naaah.

Now Scotland invading England on the other hand... :haha:

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Originally Posted by Dread Knot (Post 2177186)

No, I don't see that either.

I think the sentiments will be along the lines of, "don't let the door hit you on the way out" and " write if you find work....if you can find work." :D

Spoken like a true English Geordie :cool:

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2177265)

Spoken like a true English Geordie :cool:

I could go for canny bag o' Tudas right now.

http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/ic...01AC1BF814.jpg

I find this article quite interesting and gives one food for thought from the opposite perspective.

Try to read it all before looking at the authors opinion at the end.

Should the English have a say on Scottish independence?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26173128

The English people that live in Scotland will have a say and every third voice I hear in East Lothian where I live is of English origin.

The Scottish Economy being subsidized by England is a bit of a mystery to me.

The oil that is left under the sea is the big factor in this, most of the money gained by it goes down to Westminster where it is squandered.

If Scotland Leaves the Union then that money will stay here, even if it's only for forty years, but forty years is a long time.

My girls have a Norwegian friend that attends the same university and he just can't understand why we are in the mess we are in. He has actually said to me that the further south he travels the better things are. I can niether prove or disprove that statement it is just his opinion.

I am fed up being a second class citizen in my own country, our currency is even refused in England.

On a military note, I was brought up on war movies where more often than not the protagonist would encourage his men to fight for England not Great Britain.

Only to find out that there were more Scots, Australians, New Zealander's, Indians, Canadians, Welsh and Northern Irish fighting than Englishmen.

When people from other nations refer to Great Britain as England and spout that Scotland is part of England.

That sticks not only in my throat but I would hazard that most Scots feel the same.

DO I hate the English and England? Hell No!. I have many friends in England and have served in the Royal Navy.

DO I think that Scottish MP's should have a say in matters that only concern England? Hell No!

The reason I am voting YES in the referendum is because something has to change. If we get independence at it works then that would be great. If fail well... At least we wont be able to blame the English :D

Sorry Jim for my rant, I know it's wee niggly reasons, but after a while the niggly reasons explode.

Peace
Gary

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Originally Posted by Garion (Post 2177944)

A question from an outsider, would you respect a no? Would you respect the result if it is a no to a Scottish independent?

Markus

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Originally Posted by Garion (Post 2177944)

Sorry Jim for my rant, I know it's wee niggly reasons, but after a while the niggly reasons explode.

I've stayed out of this thread as I have no business and no opinion. I just wanted to say that there are different kinds of rants, and I found yours to be well thought out. Whether somebody agrees or disagrees, you were careful to cite your reasons and state them clearly, and even inject a bit of humor.

Either way it ends up going, I hope it works out for the best.

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2177949)

A question from an outsider, would you respect a no? Would you respect the result if it is a no to a Scottish independent?

Markus

Yes, if the result is NO, then I will respect that outcome.

Like many on these forums I have seen too much death and destruction in my life to contemplate any armed insurrection, I am too auld anyway:arrgh!:

Cheers

Gary