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B. Out shopping with the wife C. In the car with the wife having a panic attack over her driving D. You can can fill out D. |
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Lodge a complaint with Huffington Post. |
Not long out of the pit but trying to catch up on what I've missed.
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You neither lacked to prove that all the military leaders who took control of the government in late April and May were politicians before, nor did you add anything noteworthy. You venting? Things tough at home? Life been rough on you? Not paying your bills on time? What is it? Perhaps I could talk you through it. http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/k...be-alright.png |
Well wastegate, where to start with your nonsense?
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Like I said , only a complete idiot would try and use the Nazi Flensburg cabinet as an example of nice clean non Nazi people without checking their former roles in the Nazi government and the positions they held in the Nazi regime, let alone the number of years or even decades that they had been loyal fully paid up Nazi party members. So do you fit the bill? Quote:
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This is what its come to? :nope: |
"Nazis", well.
What was a Nazi ? It seems as if this term is the product of Hollywood and propaganda. Was Goebbels or Hitler a "Nazi" ? Sure. Was Keitel one ? Maybe. Was Lehmann-Willenbrock one ? Certainly not. Was Lueth one ? Certainly yes. Was the Gestapo a Nazi organisation ? I'd say it was. What did the CIA do in countless countries, is or was that "Nazi"? And who was not a "Nazi" by allied view, in Germany of the time ? Even some abroad or so i have heard. You had to be a Nazi if you wanted to get a job, or be promoted between 1933 and 1945. A lot of german people made fun of those Nazis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc_-LU44n1o When my father surrendered and was questioned (among other things) by a british officer if he had been a "Nazi", he clenched his teeth and curtly said "Of course i was." So the officer walked around the table, shook his hand and said something like "Congratulations and thanks, you are the very first i meet here." Can hardware like a tank be Nazi? Of course not, this is still good old propaganda. Of course, in some forums the Red Baron of WW1 was a Nazi. Also U-boat crews of WW2 were mostly not Nazis at first, this happened a bit more often towards the end of the war, when the first generations were dead, and the second generation of ideologically 'styled' teens manned those boats. What do you do if your generation goes to war, sit at home and wish them luck? Especially if another country declared war to you ? Or if you are drawn ? (also thinking of the jolly good old english manner of pressing men into service in the last centuries). Is the man who presses the button to launch a cruise missile at a an unseen target sure that he will kill "the evil" ? He is following orders, and the duty of thinking has been taken away from him. The "Nazis" did nothing else. I thought that thinking and deciding for oneself would be self-evident after 1945, or the Vietnam war. But when i see how the same dumb young people still pour into the military for their career i wonder .. |
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My grandfather on my mothers side was a Nazi. He had a wife and three children. He also had a gun to his head and was asked if he was a member or not. Had he chosen to answer wrongly, his family would have had to suffer through the final bit of the war without him, as a significant part of his brains would have been exiting his cranium immediately.
Many so called "Nazi's" did not believe in National Socialism or support Hitler. They still were members, by force. We have no knowledge if those aboard were members of the party or not. It does not matter, for they died in service to a government that itself claimed the title "Nazi". That does not dishonor their sacrifice, but the context should also not be whitewashed, else we run the risk of whitewashing many actions and atrocities committed in the name of "the State". |
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I personally agree with you about the terminology involved, but find your anger a bit misplaced. Have you written to the newspaper in question complaining about this? Subsim is a tiny part of the World Wide Web, and what we do here has absolutely no bearing or influence on the real world. If it really bothers you so much you should be agitating for a retraction by the paper involved. |
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