What do the North Koreans think they going to win by doing this?

They must know that, it is a suicide mission once they fire the first shot or press the botton

Markus

Surely it depends where it hits? You have had nearly 1000 nuclear detonations in Nevada (and one in New Mexico). :sunny:

I doubt all the North Koreans will understand any of it, only the government and military higher-ups.

Precisely :yep:

Sorry my mistake, I should have written "the government and the military"

Markus

Might actually do some good, I mean, it did for Las Vegas. :yep:

If the superior side in a conflict is so complex and advance din setup like the US society, then the inferior side needs only one or two hits scoring to casue it more damage and losses than the superior side can ever impose on the enemy in revenge. A Dam. A nuclear powerplant. There is plenty of precious tasty targets in the US that will cause mayham if taken out. What tasty precious targets are there in North Korea? Poverty farms? Gulags? Pyonyang? Would you say Pyonyang is a good equalizer if New York gets wiped out?

The US is extremely vulnerable right due to its complex and advanced social setup and infrastructure and advanced civilisation. Only few other nations have as much at stake than the US. You cannot intimidate a barbar with wiping out his infrastructure - if he has none. But he can intimidate you, because you have one. Else you would not call him inferior, and a barbar.

The charm of lacking complexity is greater robustness. Things tend to fall apart in reverse order in which they got constructed or formed up. Bugs will still be there once humans are long since gone.

You 'wipe out' New York and in return your whole country is incinerated/wiped out.

There will still be plenty of the US remaining but nothing habitable in NK.

I wouldn't call that an exchange worthy of contemplation.

from the south corean side, they do not care...
they have inflicted greater damage.
and in their mind , they have won.

the US's Job, after that, will be to either nuke them again and again and again to make sure they have nothing left but burned soil.
(and cockroaches)
or send men to invade... which the US civilization will have a funny reaction to.

and the world will not tolerate mass nuking..., and the chinese will not either.

three weeks later, the Nk leader will broadcast from a Chinese TV station in beijing, spewing hate against the US, and the chinese will be pissed as hell from the nuke blasts close to its border.

and then nuke the rest of the states.
and also europe and russia.


i say either stop the rhetoric or get it on once and for all - this is boring.

BORING you hear?
drop some stuff on someone's head, or just leave the world in peace.
The NK/Chinese + SK/USA blahblahblah is in the newspapers, on the radio, on dat interwebz...
stop spamming me, dammit.

I don't imagine for one minute that NK would have an even half-successful nuke strike on any US territory (SK embassy the exception), and if it did I doubt that the retalliation would be nuclear. Might be an idea to say to the Chinese that without their support in US retalliation strikes they may use them. :hmmm:

if they even launched a nuke (or anything similar, even a Dud one) in the general direction of SK, Hawaii, alaska...
the US populace would scream for revenge, or for immediate action.

nuking maybe not, but then the second scenario comes into play: overrun them. isolate them. starve them.

anyway...
the main point was to say "act or stop talking", mainly aimed at the NK crew.
the talk has taken decades now - for longer than i live.

as long as they do not act, the world should not be
-concerned
-worried
-spammed
-read these messages in the media and be subjected to this trolling

The media are also "guilty" of giving that NK fella a Soapbox to stand on, as he and his crew spread this hatred.
and we pay for these media by various taxes, by paying journals or other means.
and even if we do not pay, but read it in free newspapers (sponsored by commmercials) it still gets in our face.

as it stands, he draws worldwide attention and creates worldwide unease by merely hovering his finger over "da button".


F(beep) TROLL.

i shall put him on my ignore list, shall i not?
How bout you folks?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ng_North_Korea

Just sayin...

The best outcome would be for the PRC to put in their own favourable government. That way, the PRC saves face, the DPRK doesn't overrun the ROK or PRC in refugees and the status quo is relatively maintained without excess bloodshed.

Not likely to happen though, but tbh, this is all mostly a storm in a teacup, it'll blow over soon. Just like August has pointed out, this is not exactly the first major period of tensions on the Korean peninsula.

Not that I don't find the comment tasteless, while not the least bit surprising, such comments are still not uncommon when it comes to many other parts of the world. I have seen "Nuke them LOL" blurts at least when the topic was...let's see...Israel, Africa, Middle East, North Korea (Surprise!) or, I don't know, any freaking part of the world where the person saying something like that doesn't live in and which doesn't concern him personally. We just somehow seem to accept it much more easily when it's said about places like those.

You do not get the argument. Even destroying all of NK I would not consider a sufficiently precious "compensation" for the destruction of N.Y. NY economically simply is much more worth, its loss causes much more costly consequences than the destruction of NK. It's loss scores heavier due to the many side effects. Thus: the US has more to loose and less to win than the NK leadership once NK atomic missiles could reach NY. Or LA.

Stop implying the other side runs by the same rationals than you do. ;) It's a mistake to always assume the other side necessarily ticks the same way like you do yourself. Hitler. Assad. Saddam. Gaddafhi. Had they any scruples to sacrifice their own people and countries in their name?