Yes, that is exactly what I am saying, and have been saying for the past week. There is as much reason to restrict the sale and ownership of firearms as there is to arm teachers in the classroom. That is, none. What is needed it to prevent this from happening in the first place. This means mental health care.

We must develop mind reading and telekinetic powers.That way we can read the mind of a person planning violence and hopefully stop them before they do.If the person has very good mind shielding and hides their inner thoughts well and they attempt an attack then we will use our telekinetic powers to bend his guns into a "u" like Superman or Magneto.

I've never held a firearm in my life. I have never been the victim of violent crime. Hmmm.

Perhaps they target schools due to the shock value of violence against children. So, no, I don't buy your 'be armed or die helpless' argument.

That statement is not supported by the facts here. How do you know that gun violence would not skyrocket in Texas if they adopted California's gun laws.

Exactly, gun control is not going to work, never has worked and i'm pretty sure it never will work.

We must develop mind reading and telekinetic powers.That way we can read the mind of a person planning violence and hopefully stop them before they do.If the person has very good mind shielding and hides their inner thoughts well and they attempt an attack then we will use our telekinetic powers to bend his guns into u shapes like Magneto.

What, you want me to prove a negative?

Yeah, what did I say?

I don't care what you buy or not Takeda because the facts speak for themselves. Of the 9 named massacres in the United States since 1990 only 3 have been in schools and one of them was at a University which only educates adults.

All nine of them were in Gun Free Zones though.

As an immediate hotfix measurement to adress the immediate threat, okay.

But the underlying problem is not adressed by this nor solved. There are reasons why the US are the lonely world champion in number of school shooting incidents. And these reasons should be adressed.

So this measurement just is what I just named it as: a hotfix, no solution and no lasting correction in itself.

The underlying problems are cultural, social, and mental.

Germany: after Fukushima the German government was so terribly afraid of the Japanese disaster travelling around the globe only to find and effect Germany, that it decided to leave nuclear power behind. Since then we have exploding costs in an increasingly chaotic effort to turn around our energy production, with our enegry minsiuter having nothing more tzo offer in substance than to advice Germans to wash their laundry not warmer than 40°C.

The American school shooting disatser has reached Germany as well. We already have one of the most punishing gun laws in the world, but as a consequence from what happened in America the Greens want to establish so high a penalty tax on possessing firearms for sports or hunting or (licensed) self protection that they say by that they want to make Germany a private firearms-free zone.

I know how my father stores his now single 9mm pistol he uses for sports. A heavy safe, certified by the police. Several documentations of that and the ammo storage being traded back and forth. Photographys of the safes inside and outside being registered with the police database. If they have the personnel: unannounced home controls (demanded by law). And a weapons license exam that is designed by its pedantic theoretical ammo and hunting details to just scare people away from it. A legal obligation to hold an organised membership in a sports shooting club and practice - to be documented by the president - at least 18 times a year plus obligation to participate in official tournaments - also to be documented pedantically. If you do not do tournament shooting, why would you need to shoot in between then? If you do not visit the range every 2-3 weeks minimum, why should even own a weapon?

Die spinnen die Deutschen... I am by far no campaigner for a general right to carry weapons, but what we have in Germany today just is hilarious, and totally hysteric.

They also want to ban since years all private home storage of legal firearms, and collect them in sport clubhouses. Nice, big, fat, filled weapon arsenals - very attractive targets for criminals breaking in by night and steal them, several dozens if not hundreds of weapons in one rush. But so far the thinking of these dumbheads propagating this does not reach.

Weapon fetishism like in the US does not lead to new grounds. Hystery like over here does not either. The truth is somewhere between the German and American extremes. But considering how deep the society is split in the US anyway, and political trenchwarfare, I have little optimism, even if Obama indeed would ban private ownerhsip of at least SARs (which should indeed have no aloowance in private households, like grenades, missiles launchers, landmines, machine guns, too)... Leave such weapons to the military and law enforcfement. Waging war, and anti-crime self-defence are not the same things.

I would agree with Tak here. Schools afford easy targets, least resistence and excellent shock value. Malls not so much.

And when this becomes the norm, we can talk about it. But the fact remains that every day gun violence is typically between two armed individuals. It doesn't seem that guns will stop that. So, again, you can rectite the NRA line as much as you like, but it doesn't make it true.

See my last post.

The Norm?

And BTW "everyday gun violence" does not indicate which shootings were in self defense and which ones were murder so using that statistic as a justification to take away peoples Constitutional rights is wrong.

And this is why I can't understand the gun culture. Here I am citing violence as a problem and saying that proliferation may not be the answer and all the sudden I'm trying to take your guns away. What was that about drama again?

I did see your post. To not be insensitive, it would seem school shooting is now the 'in' thing. All the kids are doing it.

If you support the AW ban then you are trying to take guns away from American citizens. If you support Gun Free zones you are trying to take guns away from American citizens.

If you want the support of those who believe in the 2nd Amendment then you had better start making suggestions that will actually address the problem instead of shredding the Bill of Rights which won't.