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Jimbuna 12-10-12 07:30 AM

^ :har:

Hottentot 12-10-12 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 1973326)

I'm afraid those guys are some six or so years late. He left some music behind, though. Maybe they should listen to more of it and relax?

Alex 12-14-12 03:16 PM

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Fabricating WMD “Evidence”: Israeli Covert Operation inside Syria to “Track Chemical Arsenal”

Israel is conducting a covert cross-border operation directed against Syria in liaison with NATO and the Pentagon.
After looking for a “smoking gun” in Iran earlier this year, Israeli special forces are now “tracking” Syria’s “stocks of chemical and biological weapons”, according to The Sunday Times.
“The cross-border operation is part of a secret war to trail Syria’s non-conventional armaments and sabotage their development. ‘For years we’ve known the exact location of Syria’s chemical and biological munitions,’ an Israeli source said, referring to the country’s spy satellites and drones. ‘But in the past week we’ve got signs that munitions have been moved to new locations.’” (Uzi Mahnaimi and Lucy Fisher Israel tracks Syria’s chemical arsenal, The Sunday Times 9 December 2012.)
Everyone recalls the WMD hype prior to launching the war on Iraq. It turned out that the Iraqi WMD threat was an outright fabrication.
Those involved in the Iraq WMD propaganda ploy are now applying their skills with a view to fabricating a WMD pretext to intervene in Syria. According to a report from the Jaffee Center for Strategic Studies at Tel Aviv University, “Israelis ‘misread’ the Iraqi threat”. In 2003, the BBC wrote on the report’s findings:
Israeli intelligence miscalculated the threat posed by Saddam Hussein […] This contributed to the “false” picture painted by US and British services […]

“Israeli intelligence was a full partner with the US and Britain in developing a false picture of Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction capability,” said the author of the report, retired Brigadier General Shlomo Brom.
“It badly overestimated the Iraqi threat to Israel and reinforced the American and British belief that the weapons existed.”
“From now on, when we present serious data on other countries, like Iran for example, who will treat us seriously?” Israel Radio quoted Israeli left-wing parliamentarian Yossi Sarid as saying. (Israelis ‘misread’ Iraqi threat, BBC,December 5, 2003)
In late March 2012 The Sunday Times reported that “Israel is using a permanent base in Iraqi Kurdistan to launch cross-border intelligence missions in an attempt to find ‘smoking gun’ evidence that Iran is building a nuclear warhead.” (Israeli spies scour Iran in nuclear hunt, The Sunday Times,March 25, 2012)
There is no evidence that Iran has nuclear weapons, even US intelligence agencies agree on that. Global Research ran a story on the Israeli covert op, potentially fabricating WMD evidence in relation to Iran. What is now unfolding in relation to Syria’s alleged WMD is a rerun of previous attempts to funnel fabricated evidence into the news chain:
Western sources told the Times Israel was monitoring “radioactivity and magnitude of explosives tests” and that “special forces used Black Hawk helicopters to carry commandos disguised as members of the Iranian military and using Iranian military vehicles”. The sources believe “Iranians are trying to hide evidence of warhead tests in preparation for a possible IAEA visit”. (Cited in Report: Israeli soldiers scour Iran for nukes, Ynet, March 25, 2012)

The number of Israeli intelligence missions focussing on the Parchin military base in Iran has increased in the past few months, according to the article. During that period, Tehran has been negotiating with the IAEA which had requested to visit Parchin. According to Iran’s permanent representative to the IAEA, Ali Asghar Soltanieh, both parties had agreed in early February that the visit would take place in March. (Gareth Porter, Details of Talks with IAEA Belie Charge Iran Refused Cooperation, IPS,March 21, 2012)
The IAEA requested to visit Parchin in late January and late February, after having agreed to a visit in March. The IAEA thus requested to visit the military complex exactly at the same time Israel was intensifying its secret operations to allegedly search for a “smoking gun”. (Julie Lévesque, Fabricating a “Smoking Gun” to Attack Iran? Israeli Spies Disguised as Iranian Soldiers on Mission Inside Iran Global Research,March 27, 2012)
Israel’s covert operation in Syria is part of a longstanding intelligence agenda directed against the Damascus government. According to intelNews:
[…]Israel’s covert activities against the Syrian government’s chemical and biological arsenal go back almost 30 years. Reputedly, some of the more recent such activities may have involved the targeting of Russian scientists.
Although Russia routinely denies it, it is believed that Syria’s non-conventional arsenal was significantly augmented in the late 1980s and early 1990s with the help of Russian retired general Anatoliy Kuntsevich [...]

Interestingly, Kuntsevich died suddenly in 2003 onboard a flight from the Syrian capital to Moscow. It was widely speculated at the time that the Mossad, Israel’s covert-action agency, may have played a role in the Russian general’s sudden death. In 2010, another retired Russian general, Yuri Ivanov, who had served as Deputy Director of the GRU, Russia’s military intelligence agency, died in unclear circumstances […]
According to reports in the Israeli press, the former GRU official was on his way to a meeting with Syrian intelligence officers when he went missing. Israel has never acknowledged having played a part in Ivanon’s death, but many suspect that Tel Aviv had been targeting the two Russians for quite some time. (Joseph Fitsanakis Israel special forces conducting cross-border operations in Syria, intelNews.org, December 10, 2012.)
This interpretation of events is plausible since targeted assassinations of foreign scientists by Israeli secret services have been acknowledged in the past:


The reduction [of Israel’s covert operations in Iran] runs across a wide spectrum of operations, cutting back not only alleged high-profile missions such as assassinations and detonations at Iranian missile bases, but also efforts to gather firsthand on-the-ground intelligence and recruit spies inside the Iranian program, according to the officials. (Karl Vick, Mossad Cutting Back on Covert Operations Inside Iran, Officials Say, TIME, March 30, 2012, quoted in Julie Lévesque, “Running Short of New Targets: Israel’s Secret Service is “Cutting Back on Assassinations” in Iran, Global Research, April 17, 2012.)


While Israel’s secret operation in Syria could conceivably also target Russian scientists, it should be understood that its ultimate objective is to reinforce the intense propaganda campaign pertaining to Syria’s chemical arsenal. This leak in The Sunday Times could be part of the ongoing psychological operation against Syria, with a view to building a pretext for waging a preemptive war on Syria.


Since the beginning of the armed insurrection in March 2011, the US and its allies alongside the Western mainstream media have been blaming the Syrian government for committing atrocities directed against civilians, including the Houla massacre. According to independent media reports as well as the testimony of witnesses on the ground, these atrocities were committed by the US-NATO sponsored opposition forces.


The Syrian government has been demonized to such an extent by the mainstream media that if an attack were to occur, public opinion could easily be led to believe, without evidence, that the Syrian government is responsible for crimes against its own people.


This is a perfect context for a false flag operation or intensive propaganda involving chemical weapons. These allegations based on fake WMD evidence directed against the Syrian government could be used once again to pressure the UN Security Council to give NATO a “legal mandate” to intervene in Syria under the “responsibility to protect” doctrine.


CNN recently reported that the US and “some European allies are using defense contractors to train Syrian rebels on how to secure chemical weapons stockpiles in Syria.” The Syrian government expressed its concerns in a letter to the UN:


What raises concerns about this news circulated by the media is our serious fear that some of the countries backing terrorism and terrorists might provide the armed terrorist groups with chemical weapons and claim that it was the Syrian government that used the weapons [...] (Quoted in John Glaser, US Defense Contractors Training Syrian Rebels to Handle Chemical Weapons, Antiwar.com, December 10, 2012.)
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Still, I think you should better not believe that, remember : that may well be RussiaToday Pravda from Vladivostok fabricated in Lake Baikal, in conjunction with remains of a far right collaborationist french SS division. http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/982127ugly21.gif http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/529306uglybacho.gif http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/173914uglybanana.gif http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/308997uglycoucou2.gif http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/960740uglybanana.gifhttp://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/729315uglylire.gif http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/309467uglyhat.gif http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/786129uglyup.gif

Tribesman 12-14-12 04:23 PM

Well done Alex, such wonderful delivery you managed, todays top story.... CHEMTRAILS Americas next global conspiracy after already poisoning everyone with floride:har::har::har::har::har::har:

eddie 12-14-12 05:06 PM

You know something Tribesman, you could get arrested for giving away America's top secret plans! The CIA could swoop in and take you away and make you spend a week in a pub, so let that be a warning to you!:D

Jimbuna 12-14-12 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by eddie (Post 1975791)
You know something Tribesman, you could get arrested for giving away America's top secret plans! The CIA could swoop in and take you away and make you spend a week in a pub, so let that be a warning to you!:D

Mines a pint :Kaleun_Cheers:

eddie 12-14-12 05:30 PM

We'll be keeping an eye on you too Jim, lock you up with Tribesman, but will put everything on Alex' tab!:salute:

Jimbuna 12-14-12 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by eddie (Post 1975813)
We'll be keeping an eye on you too Jim, lock you up with Tribesman, but will put everything on Alex' tab!:salute:

Why thank you kind sir :sunny:

Tribesman 12-14-12 05:48 PM

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You know something Tribesman, you could get arrested for giving away America's top secret plans! The CIA could swoop in and take you away and make you spend a week in a pub, so let that be a warning to you!
:up:
you gotta laugh at his pathetic nonsense though, I mean chemtrails for gods sake:nope:
then again if you look at the crazy kooks other stories on the wonderful site Alex kindly provides for ridiculing him as a nazi twat then you get the jews did 9/11, the jews did the London bombings, the jews did the nuclear meltdown in Japan and of course some nice holocaust denial sit as its all about an occidental conspiracy and how they run America and Britain and errrr...the world.
Dumb Nazis eh:doh:

Still if its to be a week in a pub I am game for one of Sam Smiths fine yorkshire establishments.

eddie 12-14-12 06:24 PM

Even if you were in a pub for a week, so drunk you couldn't stand up, you still wouldn't understand what he wrote, let alone when you are sober!

More then likely, if you are like me, why would we even want to read it!:haha:

Alex 12-14-12 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1975758)
CHEMTRAILS Americas next global conspiracy after already poisoning everyone with floride:har::har::har::har::har::har:

LOL, not my fault if the Occident doesn't provide you with fair news only. See, you too are against the absence of meaning you can find in our occidental news, Tribesman. :yep: http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/80484324ha.gif

Tribesman 12-14-12 07:22 PM

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LOL, not my fault if the Occident doesn't provide you with fair news only.
yes its wierd, the occidental global media conspiracy doesn't run websites full of crap about chemtrails and jews blowing up the twin towers, its left to idiot nazis to "enlighten" us with those amazing news items from loony conspiracy theory websites.

August 12-14-12 08:06 PM

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