| Onkel Neal |
08-27-12 12:55 PM |
Since this thread has somehow reached five pages, I would like to address a few points.
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Originally Posted by CCIP
(Post 1925882)
It's interesting (and, admittedly, pretty cool) how much US constitutional rights lean towards those of private property, more by circumstance than anything. Normally, there are a lot of hoops that the government needs to jump through to be able to show up at your door and exert its will. Arguably this is a very good thing.
The tricky thing, of course, is when you behave a certain way in a) public space or b) someone else's property. People on the internet need to remember that they're not in their own back yard, but that they're in a whole jumble of both public and private space. That can be difficult to grasp when you're sitting at your computer desk in your own home, but you've gotta have some respect both for public safety and for the wishes of those whose space you're using to speak.
I think Subsim is run in a very casual sort of manner where you get treated like a neighbour with common sense, but that don't mean there's no rules and wishes of the owner to respect!
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A very good thing. :yep:
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Originally Posted by Oberon
(Post 1926292)
An interesting bit of morning reading:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19372177
It always makes me wonder with these 'overthrow Obama' and 'civil war' enthusiasts in the US, what do they intend on replacing Obama with? No-one would be able to agree on a single candidate and Congress would spend the rest of its short existence fighting itself over it. So perhaps you send in the military? Well, that's good...but do you really think they'd be willing to hand the power back over at the end of it?
Sometimes, you don't realise just how lucky you are to have something until you don't have it, in this case it is a stable 'democratic' system, and I hope for your sakes that you continue to have it because however terrible some Americans may think it to be, it is far better than the alternatives.
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That's the truth, but most of these extremists on both sides cannot grasp it.
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Originally Posted by mapuc
(Post 1925770)
As some of you wrote-his statement is not an threat, maybe an insult to some politicians.
And as I see it- Then one of these politician can sue him and take him to a court.
I'm not an neonazist, Communist, Gay lover, a.s.o BUT!! I fight for their rights to have their opinion, how sick it may be. And it's not the same as I would respect their believes-I don't
Markus
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I'm all for rights too, but there is a point where extremists can use the law to disrupt society with harmful effects. No thanks.
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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen
(Post 1925841)
Yeah, about that; threatening law enforcement with violence is probably outside the bounds of what Neal wants on the forum.
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It definitely is. I am not fond of the crazy conspiracy posts, and if they have threats of violence, they have to go. This is not the forum for that kind of thing.
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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen
(Post 1925855)
On a private internet forum, yes it is completely legal. Since Neal pays for this space, he is able to decide what he wants discussed here and what he does not. For example, the discussion of software piracy and the posting of pornographic images are forbidden. Images of violence and gore are also banned. Most profanity is also not permitted. And violence against law enforcement is most certainly not going to fly.
Neal has given the example, and it is a good one, of a radio talk show host. The host gets to screen the calls to decide which get aired and which do not, as is his right. This is no different. Another example is a resturant owner that does not permit smoking in certain areas of the establishment, or a nightclub owner that reserves the right to keep certain individuals from entering the club.
In short, if you want to do those things, you can make your own website to do it. But the site owner has final say about what goes on his bandwidth.
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Just to be fair and clear, I pay for a small part of the running costs of this website, forum, and download bank. The rest is covered by the contributors you see in the donor's corner top right. Some contributors (some of the biggest ones) wish to remain anonymous, and I respect that, but I do want to make sure everyone is aware, this is a community effort.
That being said, it is the moderators and I who sets the tone of the forum. We love discussions, welcome all viewpoints, and will work with those who feel there are no limits to what common sense and good taste can endure. God love 'em, the moderators are very patient and very diligent. They are here week in and week out, helping hold this community together and they are very successful.
I personally almost never respond directly to the posts that scream "ker-ray-zee!" I love the First Amendment, but in this forum, there is only a small role for crazy to fill. |
