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Tribesman 02-12-12 05:43 PM

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While the FEMA thing is most likely nutjob speculation
Most likely???????:rotfl2:

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I am an atheist but believe in the constitution which obviously obama does not
Is that why you posted a piece by an "expert" who clearly shows he is clueless:doh:
maybe he mixed up the finer details of hunting ghosts and US history and got confused:hmmm:

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the list of his impeachable offenses was spot on
By "spot on" do you mean mostly drivel or do you live in an alternate universe?

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Tribes you ignorant little man
Well after that link ......:har::har::har::har:
Keep showing your intellect boy, your deliveries are much appreciated:up:

AVGWarhawk 02-12-12 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1837161)
Go to the home page of the opening piece, it is very good for a laugh, just click on any random piece.
Or for FEMA conspiracies in particular just look for Jones and his pieces on the secret FEMA concentration camps which Obama is going to put the US population into, or Obamas secret personal FEMA army of errrrrr....Nazi dentists which are going to round up the population as part of his new world order corporate communist jewish nazi capitalist european african arab atheist federal muslim illuminati scheme:yeah:

Or if you want to take it more seriously just take the "constitutional expert" in the article and read his work on the constitution, see how many lines you can get through before you are absolutely sure without a shadow of a doubt that he is clueless.

Whichever approach you take one thing is certain......Bubbles really delivered on this one:rotfl2:


I read up on this nut job about a year or so ago. He is without a doubt a nut job. FEMA has very little time for crack headed ideas like this person has drafted. Do you really want to know what FEMA does during times like this were there is very little needed for relief? The construct "what if" scenarios. We exercise all year for the most outlandish problems arising we can find. There is no time or grand conspiracy for FEMA concentration camps. That is just laughable.

My most favorite exercise concerned the islands of Hawaii. The scenario is some weather event has made the water on the adjacent island to the main island undrinkable. We were tasked with finding costs to purchase from the mainland and fly via Antonov to Hawaii piping that would be connected end to end from the island with good water to the island with bad water.

In the meantime...we have the military with equipment that can just about make drinkable water from anything!!! Fly a few out to the island and start making good water. :doh:

And this guy thinks FEMA/Obama are running concentration camps. That's rich! :har:

Tribesman 02-12-12 06:21 PM

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My most favorite exercise concerned the islands of Hawaii.
Oh god...I hope the people from that website don't read that, you know what it will spark off....secret FEMA plans to turn hawaii into an offshore prison and take away its statehood so US citizens can be tricked into going there and then ending up in the legal limbo of Obamas new Oahu Gitmo. Plus them sneaky obama new world orderer people will be choosing Hawaii to be sure they can keep secret the fake birth cert which they have kept hidden from examination by concerned true patriots:salute:

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...we have the military with equipment that can just about make drinkable water from anything!!!
Obama orders the extension of the secret military program to put mind controlling communist drugs in fake water

Hottentot 02-13-12 01:23 AM

OK, this got me curious. Let's suppose for a while that the academic world has over population of people leaning left (which I don't agree with based on my own studies, but can't say how it is on the other side of the ocean.)

Why is it then that the professors, people with high education, long career and obvious accomplishments since they have been appointed professors from all the doctors out there on their fields, tend to be leaning left?

CaptainHaplo 02-13-12 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Hottentot (Post 1838047)
OK, this got me curious. Let's suppose for a while that the academic world has over population of people leaning left (which I don't agree with based on my own studies, but can't say how it is on the other side of the ocean.)

Why is it then that the professors, people with high education, long career and obvious accomplishments since they have been appointed professors from all the doctors out there on their fields, tend to be leaning left?

Academia is insulated. Communism is a great system - on paper. But its a failure in the real world. Academia does not exist in the real world. Professors are like design engineers - it "works" on their computer, in their lab, etc. The "theory" of liberalism is great - but impossible to impliment "in the field" - because the theory discounts basic human nature. Its a variable that simply cannot be accounted for, because it cannot be consistently anticipated correctly.

In the US, especially in the college system, you have instructors that have never gone out and DONE what they teach. They have "book" smarts, but in a real world environment - even in their own field, they cannot succeed. Take a computer programming instructor - give him spaghetti code that has a couple of errors - and he flounders trying to find them. Why? Because its not "what its supposed to be" - its not nicely commented, documented, etc. So he isn't efficient in solving the issue.

Due to the way Academia works - many teachers get tenure. This is their goal - once they get it, it doesn't matter how good or bad they are in the classroom - they basically have "a job for life". The biggest problem is that tenure is often decided by the relevant department - meaning its less about success in teaching, and more about interdepartmental politics.

So you have a system that does nothing to help the "teacher" really understand the subject, and further insulates him or her from ever having to deal with the "fieldwork" that would give them perspective as to what the real world is like. When all you ever see, touch, hear, feel is the "theory" - you can't grasp how or why it doesn't work. So instead of getting that understanding, these professors write articles, garner the praise of others with the same perspective, and thus reinforce their viewpoints (and each others) from inside their own little bubble. When your experience and circle of influence points in one direction, you stick with it - and as time goes on it becomes harder and harder to see anything outside that perspective. Especially when there is no requirement to "go outside the box" and experience something that would grant a different perspective.

Find the professors with real life application experience - and you find the ones that do not follow the "standard" leftist viewpoint. Granted, that is a generality, but one that is fairly accurate.

Tribesman 02-13-12 03:45 AM

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Why is it then that the professors, people with high education, long career and obvious accomplishments since they have been appointed professors from all the doctors out there on their fields, tend to be leaning left?
Going by this topic maybe its intelligence, people on the "right" have this thing about crazy conspiracies, a habit of calling absolute drivel "spot on" and calling someone who is clearly clueless an "expert".

Or look at it this way......
People complain, some people complain loudly, if the people making the most noise happen to be on the far fringe(as is usually the case) then what they are calling "left" is probably "right" and "far left" is probably near the "center".
Its just the same as with the media, schools are a vast global conspiracy just like the news is, and its all against them and their viewpoint.

Talking of the left wing global media, did anyone notice that the opening "expert" who is an "academic" seems to be parroting his lines straight from News Internationals chalkboard of conspiracy?:rotfl2:

MH 02-13-12 05:01 AM

Great post mr haplo!
That is exactly the problem.
Academia races much "ahead" of reality by theorizing.
Living on Olimpus can make one lose sense of reality.

Tribesman 02-13-12 06:55 AM

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Academia races much "ahead" of reality by theorizing.
Maybe academia saves wasting a lot of its time on "conservative" notions by looking at the "ideas" and remembering what happened all the previous times that particular "reality" was tried.

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Living on Olimpus can make one lose sense of reality.
Living on Olympus would give a far better sense of reality and a far better view of the issues than living with bunkervision does.:yeah:
After all as a measure you are a prime example, all this global cabals , intellectual elite in education and world wide meadia conspiracies with capitalists and communists woking together to keep the good people down....it sounds just like something you should be able to discern clearly from a mile away, if you wasn't stuck looking through a narrow slit.

Skybird 02-13-12 07:17 AM

Just flew over a German headline that Obama THIS YEAR wants to add another 1.3 trillion to the debts of the record he already is responsible for, this time spending the money on traffic and infrastructure.

True? If so, then: Wowh. Just Wowh.

MH 02-13-12 07:44 AM

Hey mickey...looking for a boxing round?
First part was a legit response in second you get too much ....irish ?

misha1967 02-13-12 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1838133)
Maybe academia saves wasting a lot of its time on "conservative" notions by looking at the "ideas" and remembering what happened all the previous times that particular "reality" was tried.

If that were what they were doing, to be sure. But that sort of begs the question as to why they still babble about socialism when it, throughout all of human history, every time it has been tried under no matter what name, has failed miserably.

Every. Single. Time.

You would think that after a few hundred failed attempts true "intellectuals" would finally give up on it.

Repeating the same action time after time expecting a different result and all that... :DL

AVGWarhawk 02-13-12 07:46 AM

Last time I checked the stimulus packages were to encompass infrastructure and the shovel ready projects. I guess we are to just forget about that aspect. Typical. Earmark and raid it for something else. Thus goes the steady on course Washington that has taken the same course for decades.

Tribesman 02-13-12 08:30 AM

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If that were what they were doing, to be sure. But that sort of begs the question as to why they still babble about socialism when it, throughout all of human history, every time it has been tried under no matter what name, has failed miserably.
Who still babbles about socialism?
Apart from the fringe who think everything they don't like or don't get is socialism.
Hey, who babbles...its bubbles:woot:
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Repeating the same action time after time expecting a different result and all that...
That is why most people who think would advocate a mixed system not the same lame ones again and again, the problem of course being finding the right mix that would work

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Hey mickey...looking for a boxing round?
Who is mickey?
You are really fond of the canvas ain't ya....on the few occasions when you ain't already just running round the ring in a blind panic:rotfl2:

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First part was a legit response in second you get too much ....irish ?
Did it hit too hard?
What does irish mean?
MH are you out to prove that you share another despicable trait with those 30's fools?

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Last time I checked the stimulus packages were to encompass infrastructure and the shovel ready projects.
The problem there AVG is that infrastructure can cover most projects one way or another and "shovel ready" is a very flexible term, however only $476 billion is allocated for that slice not the $1.3 trillion sky mentions
Look on the bright side on the bigger number, its a running deficit reduction of $100 billion with a projection of a surplus next budget(who knows, it may even happen:har:)

misha1967 02-13-12 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1838166)
Who still babbles about socialism?
Apart from the fringe who think everything they don't like or don't get is socialism.
Hey, who babbles...its bubbles:woot:

That is why most people who think would advocate a mixed system not the same lame ones again and again, the problem of course being finding the right mix that would work

Not sure what your point is, unless you're trying to tell me that relabeling it once again is going to make it fundamentally different from all of its previous failed incarnations. You can call it "social democratism", "progressivism", "liberalism", "national socialism", whatever you want, even though it's going to be quite a challenge to come up with one that hasn't already been tried at least once, it's still not going to be any different from the rest.

Which, at last count, have caused the deaths of at least 150 million people but, hey, we just haven't found the right "mixture" yet.

It's always "but that's not really socialism" with the likes of you. It's always something else. Something impure, some perversion of your inevitably wonderful ideals. None of the failures count because they weren't caused by "real" socialism, whatever that might be. Other than some dream society in which nobody has to work and everybody pays their way by plucking off money from a tree in their back yard.

In the Soviet Union, the party apparatchiks always went on and on about how everybody would reach "true socialism" any day now. They became the party of "Utopia of Next Tuesday" as a result. Always just out of reach, only one more adjustment and it would be finally here.

But who am I to try to destroy your faith in Santa Claus, your unshakable belief that just one more five year plan, just one more tiny adjustment to the mixture will finally make lead turn into gold?

Just don't insist that the rest of us have to suffer while you wait for Utopia of Next Tuesday to arrive.

I've had quite enough of that.

Tchocky 02-13-12 09:59 AM

Hey hey hey hey hey.



Leave Santa alone.


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