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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1764168)

I agree. After a while it all just looks like this....

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1764168)

Not into taking sides but getting a bit tired of the endless 'tennis games' and I can assure you I am not alone in making that statement.

The exchange of posts between the pair of you is quite predictable.

My advice whether you both agree to take it or not would be to agree to disagree and move on.

Sorry
Had waaay too much time to waste on tennis today i guess.

The reality of this question is hard to miss, and its amazing that people want to take small snippets as if they were the problem.

Israel is not its own worst enemy. It is a regional target - and has been since its re-creation in 1948. From that time forward, there has been a widespread element in the Arab world that has used Israel as a focal point for hatred and destruction. This comes from many sources, including religious, social strains, economic hardships, etc.

This element, with its pervasive presence in most Arab governments, is the largest and most dangerous enemy Israel faces.

All the "issues' surrounding "peace" are created problems - and if one was solved, another would appear.

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There are loads of articles about Netanyahu and his government but this has nothing to do with Netanyahu.

Correct, this has to do with some non existant demands you said existed.
Which is kind of funny in that you attempted to prove some non existant words were said by posting an excerpt from an article about what someone else had said.....which you now say has nothing to do with it.

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Jerusalem issue refugee and Israel as Jewish state have to resolved first.

Are those preconditions or the basis of fundamental elements in any talks?

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All this crap about stopping construction in Gilo as precondition and then fight about it later is bull.

There you go again, illegal is illegal and inventing more "facts on the ground" is counter productive to any advance, Gilo is no different from any other illegal settlement
You probably didn't notice as it was in a real speech and it contained actual words but Bibi had made a deliberate effort to not even talk of "natural growth" let alone new construction or expansion so as to not screw over his allies......just before he decided to very publicly screw them over.