1. I was just making the point about FDR

2. Oops on the Wilson thing

3. The ACLU has been taken over by democrats/progressives. Saying they aren't is like saying ACORN was bipartisan

4. I listed examples on the religious grievance. Also, see ACLU

5. If liberals can argue over issues hundreds of years old, so I can I.

6. I also know the EPA was Nixon's deal - but it has recently been majorly overstepping it's boundaries.

7. The cross was perfectly legally put there.

8. They haven't proved or disproved your last point.

So when the ACLU fights for students to wear Christian symbols in school or when they fight for the right for students to wear anti Islam shirts or when they fight to have Christmas trees put up or when they back abortion protestors right to speech, they're just being damn dirty godless liberals.

:nope: It's funny to see someone so uninformed act like they have it all figured out. You don't have the first clue who the ACLU is or what they do.

To me the ACLU is just a big defense law firm. Like any other law firm, I agree with some of the cases they represent, I disagree with some of the cases they represent and I recognize that there are a lot of cases they represent I simply don't care about.

Exactly. And when the ACLU does all that and also fights for gun owners rights, our young friend here still hates them because they're some partisan organization in his eyes.

Except they take a very selective range of cases.

The ACLU, by their very nature, tends to take cases that many people disagree with. Popular speech doesn't need to be protected. Unpopular speech needs to be protected, and that's exactly what the ACLU does. That makes them unpopular with a lot of people.

Oh, he appeals to some, he is the longest running governor in the Lone Star state's history :O:

My deal with the ACLU is that while they do some good, they also do a LOT of stupid crap, like suing people for not hiring illegal immigrants.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2...a-in-texas.php

That was a month and a half ago, but still. Obama over Perry in Texas?

Interesting, any details on that?
After all it must be a very big story getting sued in court for not breaking the law.

Rick Perry is officially welcomed to the microscope of presidental candidate media scrutiny:

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Los Angeles Times, August 16, 2011

Gov. Rick Perry's Big Donors Fare Well In Texas

Many or the GOP presidential candidate's mega-donors have won hefty contracts or appointments. Perry's aides vigorously dispute that any got special perks.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...,7718310.story

Guilty until proven innocent...

But of course, no "mainstream" media reports on how many major donors got cushy positions with the current administration though.....

@ Neal
So what do you not like about him? How does he compare to Bush (as gubner). Has he done anything you like?

I'm just curious what your thoughts are.
I have an Idea, how 'bout you guys make Shiela Jackson-Lee your gubner. She sounds like a live wire.:D

http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/...attery-com.jpg

That subsim is the greatest, number 1 website...evah!

Ah, the classic "it's ok because they did it too" defense.


If there's a camera, SJL will find a way to worm her way in front of it.