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USS Drum 01-16-12 06:46 PM

Well it does have an impressive speed for something that big.

Sailor Steve 01-16-12 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by soopaman2 (Post 1822371)
Does this not reek of a "Tuskeegee Airmen" remake?

Actually rumors of a this movie (or a similar project with the same name) were circulating long before Tuskegee Airmen was announced.

IonicRipper 01-19-12 12:00 AM

Seems you guys were right, i am so disappointed :(

Review: The laudable 'Red Tails' misses its target

Im still gonna go watch it because im a sucker for WWII movies but i was really hoping for something good *snif*

At least the scenes are nice apparently... so its not all bad, right? ...Right? :damn:

Task Force 01-19-12 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by soopaman2 (Post 1822497)
Albert Speer was a genius for killing this project. Something like this would have served no strategic value, outside of defending Berlin for a few more days.

Thanks for that USS Drum. I never knew about such hardware.
It would have changed other battles for sure. It was just in line with other German tech at the time, too complicated to be mass produced.

Well the biggest issue with the thing is that it would probably break in the factory, they had enough issues with the tigers chassis. lol

USS Drum 01-19-12 12:20 AM

Well they did make something similar: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzer_VIII_Maus

TLAM Strike 01-19-12 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by USS Drum (Post 1823908)
Well they did make something similar: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzer_VIII_Maus

Was never finished. The two tanks they built were a functioning chassis and a mockup turret and a mock up chassis and a functioning turret. The Russians were the ones to put the two halfs together and built a working tank.

(I have a 1/72 Maus on my desk :03: )

Task Force 01-19-12 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by USS Drum (Post 1823908)
Well they did make something similar: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzer_VIII_Maus

Just think if they made that thing in complete kinda working order.

"Hey Hans look at our new tank"

"Ja, it is quite big"

"Ok Fritz, we must head off to the battle"

(starts)

"Ok, lets move"

(revs up abit, puts into first gear! sounds promising!!!)

and it stalls...

TLAM Strike 01-19-12 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Task Force (Post 1823916)
Just think if they made that thing in complete kinda working order.

"Hey Hans look at our new tank"

"Ja, it is quite big"

"Ok Fritz, we must head off to the battle"

(starts)

"Ok, lets move"

(revs up abit, puts into first gear! sounds promising!!!)

and it stalls...

No worries the Soviets would come to them eventually. ;)

USS Drum 01-19-12 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike (Post 1823915)
Was never finished. The two tanks they built were a functioning chassis and a mockup turret and a mock up chassis and a functioning turret. The Russians were the ones to put the two halfs together and built a working tank.

(I have a 1/72 Maus on my desk :03: )

:06:https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/im...ZeQPvmyPrQlfQw

Schöneboom 01-22-12 12:28 AM

I saw "Red Tails" today and enjoyed it on its own terms. The film is aimed at teenage boys, circa 1950. Lucas wasn't kidding, the tone is exactly like "Flying Leathernecks"! A peculiar creative choice, for sure, but I take my WW2 dogfights where I can get 'em. If you need realistic flight models and historical accuracy, this ain't the place. It's full arcade mode here.

Krauter 01-22-12 03:51 AM

@ soopaman:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzer_VII_Löwe

http://military.wikia.com/wiki/Landk...._1500_Monster

krashkart 01-22-12 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike (Post 1823915)
(I have a 1/72 Maus on my desk :03: )

How do you move the cursor around with such a tiny maus? :06:

moose1am 01-22-12 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike (Post 1716902)
There are entire channels dedicated to that philosophy now, like...
http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/7...hannellogo.gif
Aliens, Pawnshops, the Apocalypse and trying to sell crappy computer games is way more important than history and truth... :roll:

The History Channel use to be one of my favorite channels on TV until they took all the military stuff out of it and put it on the Military Channel.

Now all the history channel has is "PICKERS" and that's boring compared to what the History Channel used to have.

Seeing the Promo for Red Tails makes me wish that Fighter Ace had not gone out of business. I doubt it will ever be brought back to life with the current folks who own the rights to it now. They have the willpower but not the money or the expertise. It's a shame too.

But I do agree that some of the loops were unrealistict to say the least.

P51D had a great view and that's an advantage but what they really had over the Germans was numbers and long range. :yeah:

moose1am 01-22-12 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 1717166)
I am sure the low budget HBO movie starring Lawrence Fishburne, Cuba Gooding Jr, and Andre Braugher(as Lt Col Benjamin O Davis) is much better from the acting to historical accuracy although the cast of Red Tails looks promising.

Why no one in hollywood picks up the story of the Barb, Tang, Wahoo, Halibut(extra dramatic) is beyond me or a movie about Fluckey, Morton, O Kane, Cutter themselves etc would be great.Either way, glad they are making this movie.

I'd love to see some movies about those WWII submarine boats.

moose1am 01-22-12 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony W. (Post 1718977)
The have done a lot to fix the P-51 in IL-2

Other than it's stall characteristics, it flies almost right.

They under model the 50 cals tho. I put a 5 second burst in right on the wings at convergence, and no joy. He ran. You have to hit the engine to do anything.

Do you play IL2 online still? Sounds more like the damage modeling is in need of a tweek.

6 fifty cals converging at 800 ft should schred just about any plane or explode it with incindinary/armer piercing ammo.


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