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Growler 07-14-11 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feuer Frei! (Post 1704581)
http://yarchive.net/gun/ammo/mercury_in_bullet.html

The theory or rather concept behind this is to increase its lethality by poisoning.
As the projectile impacts it expands and breaks up and deposits the mercury.
I'm assuming it gives it a slightly higher impact energy, since mercury is heavier than lead.
Certainly negligible though.
But then again wouldn't the mercury vaporize as it exited the barrel?

A mercury load would be encapsulated in a sheath of metal, likely copper/lead. Upon impact with a target (body, wall, etc) the bullet begins to deform, breaking the integrity of the capsule and allowing mercury out.

Also, watch a high-speed camera in slo-mo, where a water balloon hits someone and explodes. Watch how the force is distributed against the target by how the balloon deforms. Fill a bullet tip with a liquid like mercury, and think of that as a small-caliber water balloon.

Madox58 07-14-11 05:48 PM

The key to useing a Mercury drop is to not 'X' the Hollow point to much.
The added weight adds impact mass at very close ranges and when the Mercury expands?
It's quite impressive what it will to to a body!
Not to mention what an 'X'ed Hollow Point will do on it's own!
I'd not try to hit anything beyond 10 or 15 feet with a load done this way.
Common Wax as from a candle is not good enuff.
You need a good Wax.
50 to 100 yards is not Home defense by the way.
That's Murder.

Also, the U.S. Military taught me how to make the rounds.
I didn't think them up on my own.

MH 07-14-11 05:58 PM

Perfect for neighborhood defence.
Kalashnikov skills required.
Very compact but a bit heavy.
Probably not very expensive.

IMI Micro Galil

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__.../Israeli_2.jpg

Gerald 07-14-11 06:03 PM

Personally, one should be restrictive when it comes to firearms, and should only be obtained if necessity demands it.

Sailor Steve 07-14-11 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendor (Post 1704956)
Personally, one should be restrictive when it comes to firearms, and should only be obtained if necessity demands it.

Of course if you don't have one before necessity demands it it's already too late.

Feuer Frei! 07-14-11 06:20 PM

Mercury Bullet, commonly called the Splatter Round.
I thought that the impact force of a mercury bullet was negligible, a hollow-point filled with mercury will retain its initial mass and momentum. The arguement, which i might add i raised in a previous post as a question now seems moot, after having thought about it for a while, on the one side arguing that mercury is heavier than lead, but on the other side, which i take side with, that over such short distances this is a invalid take.
But, what the mercury tip does is create s hock zone far greater than what a normal bullet would.
But you know all that. :03:

Gerald 07-14-11 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 1704965)
Of course if you don't have one before necessity demands it it's already too late.

Of course it is so, the laws of the U.S. is different from what is generally the case in Europe, and then you can not go around the corner to "only" get a gun, because you have to have it, which certainly arouses irritation in some people.

Madox58 07-14-11 06:26 PM

If one only looks at Home defense?
A Hand Gun is the best weapon for the average person.
Easy to handle and use.
You can point it around a corner with little effort and exposure with very little weight to draw the weapon down.
3 or 4 rounds capped at the intruder should send them out the door even if you don't hit them!
Shot Guns give a wider Hit but are a bit bulky and require better training
to actually use in doors unless you just want to put big holes in your walls.

Don't believe HollyWood first off.
Your home probably only has 1/2" drywall on each side of your walls.
Some places may only have 3/8ths"!
I can put one of my swords through that!
Hell I can punch through that if need be!

A good Hand Gun, and a few tricks added to your home for a very low cost can save your life.

Gerald 07-14-11 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer (Post 1704971)
If one only looks at Home defense?
A Hand Gun is the best weapon for the average person.
Easy to handle and use.
You can point it around a corner with little effort and exposure with very little weight to draw the weapon down.
3 or 4 rounds capped at the intruder should send them out the door even if you don't hit them!
Shot Guns give a wider Hit but are a bit bulky and require better training
to actually use in doors unless you just want to put big holes in your walls.

Don't believe HollyWood first off.
Your home probably only has 1/2" drywall on each side of your walls.
Some places may only have 3/8ths"!
I can put one of my swords through that!
Hell I can punch through that if need be!

A good Hand Gun, and a few tricks added to your home for a very low cost can save your life.

True, walls that are naturally amplified, and security doors is a base.

Madox58 07-14-11 06:41 PM

As an example?
My home was invaded while the Wife and I were in Hawaii a few years ago.
My Step-Son and a friend ended up in Hospitals and my home was trashed by the invaders.
I had nothing in place to handle something like that back then.
The Best Weapons I had were not available to my Step-Son then.
He tried going for some of my Swords as I did teach him how to use them.
He managed to give a few good cuts before he was taken down.

My home now has 'special' stuff.
Each room has what I call 'Flash Bang' lights.
Nothing more then Strobe Lights rigged to go off at my demand.
Extreme sirens wired into the same system.
Then a few more 'devices' I designed that I'll not talk about.

I've also given written notice to the local Law Dogs that should
ANYONE attempt entry to my Home?
I will Shoot First and deal with the out come later!

I would estimate a force of 12 trying to enter my home would result in 12 body bags being needed to haul them away.

Feuer Frei! 07-14-11 06:45 PM

It's hard to comprehend having to live in a setup like that.
I guess I really do live in the lucky country (Australia).

Gerald 07-14-11 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer (Post 1704990)
As an example?
My home was invaded while the Wife and I were in Hawaii a few years ago.
My Step-Son and a friend ended up in Hospitals and my home was trashed by the invaders.
I had nothing in place to handle something like that back then.
The Best Weapons I had were not available to my Step-Son then.
He tried going for some of my Swords as I did teach him how to use them.
He managed to give a few good cuts before he was taken down.

My home now has 'special' stuff.
Each room has what I call 'Flash Bang' lights.
Nothing more then Strobe Lights rigged to go off at my demand.
Extreme sirens wired into the same system.
Then a few more 'devices' I designed that I'll not talk about.

I've also given written notice to the local Law Dogs that should
ANYONE attempt entry to my Home?
I will Shoot First and deal with the out come later!

I would estimate a force of 12 trying to enter my home would result in 12 body bags being needed to haul them away.

Sorry to hear this stuff, I understand that you've done that you now have, and I would have chosen a similar planning,Flash Grenades are a good product, and maybe going to get,depending on the qualification of course.

Castout 07-14-11 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike (Post 1704720)
Worked on Trotsky... well it took a few days for him to die but it worked... :hmmm:

Good to hear. If you struck him in the neck or at the heart he would die quicker though. :O:

Golf sticks could be handy too but its rod is just useless, you need to hit with the bottom end. A head is one big golf ball, just make sure you have enough space to swing that thing before you try :D
http://images.wikia.com/dead-rising/..._Golf_Club.png

Madox58 07-14-11 07:17 PM

I live in a very small Village pretty much in the middle of no where land!
I was one of those who never figured this could happen to us.
Well it did.

I'll never be caught off guard again for such a situation!!

Gerald 07-14-11 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer (Post 1705023)
I live in a very small Village pretty much in the middle of no where land!
I was one of those who never figured this could happen to us.
Well it did.

I'll never be caught off guard again for such a situation!!

I certainly hope so, that you do not have the,situation again :yep:


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