But yubba the thing you don't seem to realise is that it's the same no matter what government there is. In Soviet Russia the rich were rich and powerful and the poor were poor, in Uganda, the rich are rich and powerful, the poor are poor, in the UK the rich are rich and powerful and the poor are poor. It's got nothing to do with governments but human nature, and that goes beyond any constitution, any laws, and any nation. Sure, you can have communist revolutions, but all that does is change the person in charge, it doesn't make the poor automatically rich, nor does it make the rich the same as the poor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsJKT...eature=related :har: well in the United States back before the government wanted to be european, no offence, everybody has a chance to be anything they want to be, that's who we are as a people, that's what makes us America, this government is blocking us from and destroying our dreams, we are a free people and we will get this turned around, because this over reaching government is broken, and broke, we will rise again, a whole lot stronger and wiser, you can not suppress freedom, from freedom minded people, we are not drones and we will not go down without a fight, it is not about the rich against the poor or the middle class, it is us the american people, white, black,red, yellow, old, young, poor, middle class, rich ,and who ever else on this earth who wants to be free, against this, US administration. It is very simple either you are for freedom or against it , I'll stick by the Constitution, we do take new members brother. vote and make right choices if we loose we loose everything and I mean everything, Subsim.com included so you better step up.

Now that's what I'm talking about! :up: Good link Yubba. :salute:

EDIT: Well the above was a good link but soon turned into the usual rant. The Below is a good link.

Yes, you posted that already. You also posted that other vid a few dozen
times already, so no need to post that either.

If you don't have anything to say, have a nice warm cup of stfu. ;)

:har:

At a basic level yes.
There are rich people in North and South Korea, in North Korea they are the high level military and the favoured ones, in the south they are government and business. There are still poor in both north and south. The only difference is how poor they are. If you start factoring in freedom of action, then yes there is a huge difference, but that freedom of action does not make you any richer, it just allows you to complain about being poor and perhaps shuffle around the guys in charge every now and then.
People in the middle have a good chance, they can go up or down the ladder, but people right down at the bottom...a lot of the time the cycle eats them, they get stuck in with the wrong people and that's how it goes. Even in the poor you get different types, gangster poor which is quite rich but in all the wrong things, hobo poor which is completely poor or just working class poor which involves working all hours god sends just to keep a roof over your head as opposed to someone who works four hours a day and gets paid for twenty plus gets a bonus for securing a business deal over wine and dinner. It's that kind of difference that takes place in every nation on this planet, because it's human nature that there is always people at the top and people at the bottom, the only thing that varies from country to country is what they are called.

Well I imagine as long as the jerk is in office there will be threads about him.Don't like it? Don't read it, same thing as when there is a show on tv you dislike, don't watch it.I could see a complaint if there was a "bill clinton" thread all the time but there is not, because he is out of office.Obamacare's unconstitutionality is a huge deal, if it stands it means our constitution is basically worthless now, if it falls, then it means the foundation of our republic still means something.Way bigger deal, esp long term than many other issues.

Very cynical and incorrect view....

We'll see. However I think we can both agree that unless the Republicans elect a real lame duck or scare-monkey as their candidate for 2012 then Obama will be going. That much is inevitable.
How much the poor will benefit from it is debatable, likewise the rich.

Also an incorrect view, in-so-far as forum policy is concerned.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/faq....ules3_faq_item

I can agree Obama will be going unless they put Palin or Romney(he just doesnt fire up the base enough due to his liberal tendencies, theyll stay home I bet)

I agree how much one class will benefit as opposed to the other is debatable but to say it does not really matter is a bit much, thus why I said incorrect.One thing that needs to stop is the class warfare, which Obama survives on, really bad for our society.

Thing is, if one poster posts a thread concerning obama then another poster posts on a DIFFERENT topic but it involves Obama in some way, that is not spamming really.The "obamacare" thread was actually a thread concerning the US Judge who handed down another ruling concerning the healthcare law, the OP found it relevant and posted, which in turn brought much discussion.Not spamming, annoying to some but as said, don't like it, don't read the thread.I see threads on here all the time that annoy me, guess what? I don't moan and complain like a lady, I ignore the thread.

True topic spamming, yes annoying.

Didn't we have "Bash Obama"-thread stickied during the elections? Maybe we could use something like that again?

It could be called "Agitprop is alive and well, thanks for asking"