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oche 07-29-10 03:34 PM

Cross your fingers and let the CA work and take all the time they need...we don't want no buggy release and even more if it's a non mod friendly game.

Dowly 07-29-10 04:01 PM

Making it unmoddable will be a big mistake, RTW is still kicking strong solely because of mods. :hmmm: ETW got away with it because there isn't any other "known" game like that.

Raptor1 07-29-10 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowly (Post 1455878)
Making it unmoddable will be a big mistake, RTW is still kicking strong solely because of mods. :hmmm: ETW got away with it because there isn't any other "known" game like that.

There is Imperial Glory, but I'd take ETW over that even without mods.

Lack of modding will almost certainly mean the difference between a good game and a bad game for this one, I'd say...

Dowly 07-29-10 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Raptor1 (Post 1455912)
There is Imperial Glory, but I'd take ETW over that even without mods.

Yes, there is IG, but it was never marketed as widely as ETW was. :hmmm:

Iron Budokan 08-06-10 12:17 PM

Shogun Total War was by far my favorite. I am really looking forward to this new release. :)

Arclight 02-10-11 03:57 PM

Some first impressions: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011...-war-shogun-2/

Takeda Shingen 02-10-11 04:48 PM

Awesome. Glad to see the series going back to it's roots.

Falkirion 02-10-11 06:10 PM

Good. Looks like I'll actually be able to understand this one without much trouble.

Empire on the other hand is a completely different beast that's both very interesting and a bit punishing if you dont know how to work things.

surf_ten 02-11-11 12:09 AM

I love the total war's concept of turn base strategy with real time battle tactics. Truly, a brilliant concept, but plague a push over AI.


I really hope the AI can put a challenge in this version. I loved the TW:SG but I would fight battles where I would lose 30 or less troops despite killing or capturing hundreds of AI opponent. High ground or bridge battles would always end badly for the AI. Vanilla Medieval 1 and Medieval 2 had the same easily exploitable tricks.

Arclight 02-11-11 01:17 AM

Don't think an AI is ever going to match a human oponent. Not anytime soon and not in a desktop videogame, anyway. ;)

At least the AI seemed more capable of dealing with the bow-and-sword gameplay of the titles before Empire, so in that regard it's probably a good thing they decided to return to Shogun. And it does call for a pretty decent CPU (hell, very decent CPU), so i'd say there's definetly more going on under the hood.

Arclight 02-11-11 02:05 AM

Oooh, Steam has an exclusive trailer. Rather nice one at that.

Though I'm sure some enterprising soul has uploaded it somewhere already. *cough*

Egan 02-11-11 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Crécy (Post 1436955)
Looking definitely forward to this one. I would have preferred Rome 2, though. Rome total war was my first touch to total war series and so far it has been the best TW game. I've spent countless hours on and I would propably play it still if one of the three disk had broken :(. I'm a little worried that Shogun 2 will not have mod support as it was the mods that keeped me playing Rome so much.

I played M:TW and R:TW to death. I loved Rome - one of my favourite games ever I think. Thing was, I just couldn't get into any of the other games in the series afterwards but I'd buy Rome 2 in a heartbeat.

There were great mods for Rome but the thing that I enjoyed most about it was the music. The music was brilliant.

surf_ten 02-11-11 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Egan (Post 1595746)
I played M:TW and R:TW to death. I loved Rome - one of my favourite games ever I think. Thing was, I just couldn't get into any of the other games in the series afterwards but I'd buy Rome 2 in a heartbeat.

There were great mods for Rome but the thing that I enjoyed most about it was the music. The music was brilliant.

For some reason the Roman era and the Empire era does not interest me as much a the European Medieval period and the Japanese history.

I think the music in all the total war series is exceptionally done. I really loved the medieval songs with the dramatic chorus. It was like I was about to unleash God's wrath upon my forsaken enemies.

I just watched the steam trailer for new Shogun 2. They have done a great job marketing this game. If the game is released in a relatively bug free state I'll definitely add this one to my games collection.

Arclight 02-11-11 03:51 PM

PC Gamer did a review on it already, will have to wait a bit to see it though.
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Why did it get that score and the Editor’s Choice award? Try improved AI that attacks from the sea and uses terrain to its advantage, an online clan system with excellent matchmaking that encourages teamworks between allies, and the artful realisation of the Sengoku period. We say that “Shogun 2 is the Total War series back on form,” and that it “boasts the most outrageous hats in martial history.
http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/02/11/fi...d-in-pc-gamer/

stabiz 02-11-11 05:34 PM

Hehe, I am noticing my age is getting so high that hype does not affect me as much anymore. We`ll see, definately not preordering anything from Creative Assembly anymore.


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