I've adapted that saying somewhat.

"Business is bad you say? ******* You! PAY ME!"
Seems Ubi stoled that.
Should I sue them?
:hmmm:

Perhaps SH5 will be as good as SH2?

Now that's just down right insulting.

The answer is yes, of course -- provided we let it, SH5 can surpass even SHIII. It certainly has the moddability, and several of the most significant bugs are fixed by mods already. The only question is really how long people are gonna stick with it. The answer, I think, is a long time. Once the first big mod is launched (or the first SHIII-style campaign, whichever comes first), people will come back in droves.

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I think you are WRONG

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Actually - I frequent this forum first then move on to the SH3 forum. I haven't played SH5 for weeks but like to keep abreast of whats going on with it. I also try to help newbies as much as I can.

For the last few weeks (and I've said this in a number of other posts here) I've got my U Boat fix from SH3 only.

So I'm afraid that your huge PNG screenshot is certainly not accurate when it comes to me tonschk.

I'd also hazzard a guess that there are quite a few other members like me - who would have pushed the figures up:03:



Edit to add: For the love of all that's holy tonschk please, please, please post jpg's

I don't even own the game, and yet I browse the forums almost daily to keep up with its current state and to enjoy the occasional drama. My WW2 submarine fix comes strictly from SH4, but there's not much new to discuss about it so I don't hang around its forum that much. Judging by the posts and threads around here there's indeed quite a lot of us doing the same thing.

I know I haven't posted much and so what I have to say doesn't carry the merit or weight as someone with 1000+ posts, but...I really enjoy SH5 and think it's great for what it is. The game does have its issues but after the patches there's been less I've come across that makes it a bad gaming experience. I appreciate what the developers have done in trying for not only a submarine simulation but also an immersive submarine experience. In SH2 I was blown away with being able to stand on the bridge of my u-boat and sail a 3 dimensional sea. Now I can walk around the entire submarine and talk with my crew (albeit in tiny, one dimensional conversations) but it still is one step closer to feeling like I'm actual commanding a submarine in the Atlantic. I mean to have a game company that strives to provide as best a game they can for such a niche market is admirable. I think people have been too harsh on a game that's only going to get better, we just have to support it. Anyways, I apologize for that becoming a rant, but I like the product I purchased.

Your view is every bit as important as any others.

1000 posts just indicate that the person concerned has posted a lot, it doesn't necessarily mean their posts are worth reading :rotfl2:

Your default Windows XP colors almost made my eyes bleed. Seriously, your on-patrol night vision must be terrible after starting software up from that desktop.

;)

@ Karasunx: First let me repeat what Robbo said - your opinion is as good as anybody's, as long as it's given fairly. And yours was. It didn't read to me like a rant at all.

I would disagree about SH2, as I had my own reasons for not liking it. It's irrelevant to go into them now; I just wanted to point out that just because I disagree doesn't mean I think you are necessarily wrong.

And it's true of SH5. You have your reasons for liking it, others have their reasons for not liking it, and others have their reasons for not buying it yet. All are valid. where they become invalid is when people say useless things like "It's wonderful" or "It stinks" or "I still refuse to buy it and you're an idiot for doing so!"

SH2 had problems that were insurmountable. SH3 has problems that have never been fixed, but we ignore them because the good far outweighs the bad. SH4 still has problems, but it's got some cool stuff as well. SH5 has problems, and the general concensus seems to be that at present it is still suffering and needs much more attention. Except for the "haters" and the "lovers", neither of whom give honest appraisals nor add anything worthwhile to the debate, the general concensus also is that once SH5 recieves that attention it stands a good chance of surpassing anything that's gone before.

Some put up with the problems and still like the game. Others feel that the older games give more satisfaction at this point. Both are right. They just need to see that.

As I said, your opinion is valid because it was an opinion and nothing more. Despite your disclaimer, it was hardly a rant. :sunny:

If you want a rant, hang out with me the next time something goes wonky on my computer (you probably won't hang out long after that :rotfl2:). Stating your opinion in a clear manner is just that: stating your opinion in a clear manner. It's when someone shoves their opinion down our throats that it becomes "sporty". :03: Sailor Steve, as always, said it better than I do. Very eloquent for a Navy guy. :D *dons helmet and awaits ton of bricks*

@tonschk - Please, please young grasshopper; big PNG's are hard on some of our connections. Try a full quality JPEG instead. Just as good in smaller size. ;)

I loved SH5 as soon as it came out. I was in love with the graphics and the fact I could walk around the sub but then the problems set in for me.
Where are all the different ships and planes? Why can I not communicate with my crew from the bridge and the bugs were Insurmountable.
But I perservered because I loved the graphics and after reading how much better SH3 and GWX were, I just couldn't get used to the aged graphics.
But for me the turning point came and that was the realization that until SH5 had been fully patched, fixed and modded it was better left on the shelf.
So I went back to SH3 GWX and bumped up AFx16 AAx32 and as I stood on the bridge, watched the band play and planes fly overhead, I realized what SH5 was missing and that's the real atmosphere and feeling if being in a German sub leaving port at the beginning of WW2.
I guess it's up to ubisoft now to fix the bugs and AI and that's where my real frustration sets in as I have a feeling ubisoft has washed their hands of the SH franchise.

:rock: I Totally 100% AGREE , :yeah:


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