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Raptor1 03-05-10 08:41 AM

What's wrong with the Swordfish? Seems slow and sluggish enough...

Anyway, this isn't really a Swordfish campaign, just a string of missions (Which will probably include aircraft other than the Swordfish anyway) until I get decent sources for Malta or come up with something else.

Oberon 03-05-10 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder (Post 1295123)
@Oberon

I think you are the last person here who should complain about wrong markings.:O:

BTW we aren't going to make a swordfish campaign, are we?
I mean that thing doesn't even have proper physics......so that wouldn't be much fun IMHO.

Well, it worked didn't it? :har: A bit dishonorable though, so if I had made it back to Akagi I probably would have been beheaded anyway :har:

I think the Swordfish physics aren't too bad, although she doesn't stall particularly easy, which is admittedly a fault of the FM and is something that is found a lot in the new flyables, buuuuut, the Stringbag was quite maneuverable if you knew how to, I recall reading about a Swordfish pilot trying to evade a group of Stukas and virtually standing the aircraft on its tail and sliding sideways whilst the Stukas overshot.
Besides, if we want to ramp up the difficulty a bit we could put in the realistic torpedo and bomb operations mod so that we have to release at the right distance and right height for the torpedoes to have enough arming time. Furthermore, from what I've heard about the mission from Raptor, there's a good chance that our Stringbags will be scattered across the landscape before we even reach the target because of Archie.
So don't count on an easy victory just yet ;)

Schroeder 03-05-10 12:34 PM

Are you guys serious?
The thing doesn't have any physics at all. After reaching take off speed you can pull the stick all the way back to it's max in a split second. No stall, no shaking, no feedback whatsoever. If you fly a plane too slow the lift creating airflow over the wings WILL rip off at some point (I've had to do it twice so far in my pilot training). First you get the shaking (That's when the airflow is close to rip of. It creates turbulences that hit the elevator and that's when you get the shaking "feedback" straight at your control stick. Should actually work with every plane.). If you get a bit slower the nose will drop without further warning as if someone had removed your wings in a split second (motorised planes might now tend to spin because of the engine torque and prop wash effects the airflow usually collapses at one wing faster than on the other) and there is nothing you can do with your elevator to stop it from doing so. After regaining speed the plane becomes controllable again.

The swordfish doesn't have any of the above mentioned characteristics.:nope:
It flies like playing in an ancient flight game but not as if playing a simulation.

Oberon 03-05-10 12:38 PM

Oh, I agree, like I said, there's absolutely no stall characteristics in her, I've tried and it's damn near impossible to stall her. However, if we compensate in other areas, such as realistic torpedoes and four tonnes of AAA (which I think Raptor has put in already) then we should still have a fair enough challenge.
I'm quite looking forward to it.

Speaking of the Swordfish, there's a number of MDF missions involving her IIRC on convoy protection and strike missions, but I'm darned if I can find them again, I'll have a butchers hook and see if I can dig them up again. :yeah:

Raptor1 03-06-10 12:27 PM

Hmm, true, didn't try flying it yet beyond a few seconds in QMB.

Schroeder 03-08-10 01:59 PM

I might not be there tonight. I'm going out again and I don't know when I will be back.

Task Force 03-08-10 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder (Post 1302362)
I might not be there tonight. I'm going out again and I don't know when I will be back.

Thats what UBIs drm said also.:rotfl2::har:

Raptor1 03-08-10 06:44 PM

Mein gott! :o

Oberon 03-08-10 06:48 PM

Ja....just....ja....

Oberon 03-08-10 06:57 PM

In 194X the Kriegsmarine launched their newest and deadliest weapon, the KMS UBER, it would take the valiant efforts of a group of misfits from the Fleet Air Arm to take her down...and enough firepower to sink the IJN Yamato...oh, and a rusty Sea Gladiator with a suicidal pilot.

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/2...2010231417.jpg
Task Force takes a swim

http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/8...2010231755.jpg
If you look carefully, you can see three wrecked Swordfishes in this pic

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/873...2010232112.jpg
The KMS UBERs CIWS strikes again

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/7...2010232238.jpg
A successful hit! But the KMS UBER laughs in the face of torpedoes

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/702...2010232257.jpg
...and 500lb bombs...

http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/2...2010232356.jpg
...and Swordfishes...

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/5...2010232502.jpg
DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE - *DEAD*

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/6...2010232720.jpg
Oberon lines up for his Kamikaze attack whilst the standard Swordfishes are plucked from the sky

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/8...2010232800.jpg
BANZAAAAAAAAAI!!! YATTAAAAAAAAA!!!

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/9...2010232823.jpg
The KMS UBER sinks, although will most likely return...evil never dies....

Tally:

The KMS UBER ate:

17-18 Swordfishes
Approx 3 Sea Gladiators
5-6 torpedoes
4-5 500lb bombs
5-8 100lb bombs

Task Force 03-08-10 07:24 PM

That thing is... is... It just is...:har:

Im starting to think it is actualy a submarine, and just dove... (Giveing reason to the torpedo circleing are carrier... lol)

Schroeder 03-09-10 07:22 AM

If the Peshkas were from hell then I really wonder what spawned this ship....:dead:

There is only one possible answer: Oleg!

That was a prime example of superior German engineering.

Be happy we never finished the Graf Zeppelin, be very happy!
:yep:

Oberon 03-09-10 09:46 AM

If you had this thing you wouldn't have needed the Graf Zeppelin, Bismarck, Graf Spee, Tirpitz, Gneisenau, Lützow, Scheer, Scharnhorst, Prinz Eugen, Bayern, Baden, Sachsen, Württemberg, König, Großer Kurfürst, Markgraf, Kronprinz Wilhelm, Kaiser, Friedrich der Grosse, Kaiserin, König Albert, Prinzregent Luitpold, Nassau, Westfalen, Rheinland, Posen, Deutschland, Hannover, Pommern, Schleswig-Holstein, Schlesien, Braunschweig, Elsaß, Hessen, Preußen, Lothringen, Wittelsbach, Wettin, Zähringen, Schwaben, Mecklenburg, Kaiser Friedrich III, Kaiser Wilhelm II, Kaiser Wilhelm der Große, Kaiser Karl der Große, Kaiser Barbarossa, Kurfürst Friedrich Wilhelm, Brandenburg, Weißenburg, and Wörth!!! :dead:

This thing was a pocket-pocket battleship :doh:

Oh, and TF...that torpedo was mine ;) I dropped it on the way back to the carrier to land.

Raptor1 03-09-10 12:00 PM

Apparently that thing was a M class Minesweeper (Or at least in disguise of one).

Whatever it was, one has to wonder why they didn't build more of them...

Oberon 03-09-10 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raptor1 (Post 1304593)
Apparently that thing was a M class Minesweeper (Or at least in disguise of one).

Whatever it was, one has to wonder why they didn't build more of them...

That would just be overkill... :hmmm:


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