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urfisch 02-18-10 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Heretic (Post 1271575)
The Assassin's Creed reviewer said they got booted to the menu immediately on losing connection. There's evidently some differences in how it's implemented in the two games.

this is...

:o

:nope:

crap...but a good way to get the firm crashed...

Onkel Neal 02-18-10 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by JScones (Post 1271779)
I didn't see Neal sign in (although admittedly I couldn't make out much of the blurry screen). :hmmm:

If Neal didn't sign in, then he does not have the full DRM/OSP.


Here's what you missed in your assumption: I logged in the first time I registered the game. :salute:

Nordmann 02-18-10 07:18 AM

It is a little odd though Neal, because what little information we have, claims that any interruption to the connection will pause the game. Clearly this did not happen with your copy. So either they lied, or your copy does not have said protection at this time.

piri_reis 02-18-10 07:22 AM

A demonstration of magnificent marketing from UBI.
We don't know what kind of protection the game has, we don't know the real requirements and how it works.

The explanation from them: "We don't want to give the hackers a head start"
For one thing they're not called hackers, they're called crackers. And don't be so funny, those kids will discover how the system works in a matter of minutes, no matter if you give them the tiny bity information you have. Security by obscurity. It has never worked. :nope:


Edit; Oh btw, thanks for the video Neal !

Onkel Neal 02-18-10 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Nordmann (Post 1271906)
It is a little odd though Neal, because what little information we have, claims that any interruption to the connection will pause the game. Clearly this did not happen with your copy. So either they lied, or your copy does not have said protection at this time.

Yes, that is possible and I tried really hard to make that very clear in the info about the video:
Quote:

This video demonstrates the game being loaded, and then cable disconnected, The game continues uninterupted. This is a preview version, and I have been assurred it has the same OSP as the final version. However, when the game is released, I will be reviewing a store-bought copy as well as the review copy sent to me by Ubisoft, and if the game behaves any differently, I will add comments here and in the Subsim forums, as well as my review. It is not my intention to coax anyone into a different point of view about DRM (not in YouTube, anyway). I just wanted to report it as I see it.
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Originally Posted by piri_reis (Post 1271913)
A demonstration of magnificent marketing from UBI.
We don't know what kind of protection the game has, we don't know the real requirements and how it works.

So, you think with all this effort to implement a new DRM for SH5, they sent me an unprotected copy? :)

MasterCaine 02-18-10 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Nordmann (Post 1271906)
It is a little odd though Neal, because what little information we have, claims that any interruption to the connection will pause the game. Clearly this did not happen with your copy. So either they lied, or your copy does not have said protection at this time.

I agree. Something is fishy. Did Ubi try and pull a fast one on Neal and the Subsim community? :hmmm:

I think we'll all be watching this closely.

Nordmann 02-18-10 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens (Post 1271916)
Yes, that is possible and I tried really hard to make that very clear in the info about the video:

So, you think with all this effort to implement a new DRM for SH5, they sent me an unprotected copy? :)

Indeed, and thanks for letting us see the result. I'm beginning to wonder if it checks once on sign in, and not thereafter. The connection being used to verify on load, and then again when saving your games. But as you say, until the retail product is available, we don't really know what their system does.

If Assassin's Creed 2 is anything to go by though, I'm worried. It uses the same OSP (apparently), and several previewers have said that it instantly kicks you from the game when your net is disconnected.

longam 02-18-10 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens (Post 1271916)
Yes, that is possible and I tried really hard to make that very clear in the info about the video:

You could use Fraps to record the login or start-up of the game and then switch to your external camera view showing the disconnect in progress.

Best Regards,

Your Producer. :haha:

Onkel Neal 02-18-10 07:41 AM

Thanks, producer :haha: But Fraps does not record anything for me until a game starts. Of course, I may not be using it right (likely), or it could be that by using a legit and paid for version of Fraps, I am missing some of the neat features to be found in the millions of illegal copies. :O:

But, I like the idea. I'm going to wait until the review copy shows up to test again. Will let you know what I learn.

piri_reis 02-18-10 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens (Post 1271916)
So, you think with all this effort to implement a new DRM for SH5, they sent me an unprotected copy? :)

See I'm just confused, and that's not good.
Some SH5 previews said, a message box came up on Internet disconnection, and you had to save and drop to desktop.
You demonstrated a minute of disconnnected play.
Assansins Creed preview said much more grim stuff.

So what do I know? I know a connection is needed ok, but how critical is it for SH5 to continue playing. Can an hour of disconnection be ok? What happens when the application says "ok enough disconnection", do I get to save? See lots of questions :DL Oh well we wait...

danlisa 02-18-10 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens (Post 1271943)
Thanks, producer :haha: But Fraps does not record anything for me until a game starts. Of course, I may not be using it right (likely)...

No, you're using it right. Fraps only captures game applications. To capture desktop activities an application like Camtasia is required. ;)

KL-alfman 02-18-10 07:52 AM

pausing the game is sort of interruption.
normally just I decide when I pause my game, won't let UBI (or any other source) do that for me.

Elder-Pirate 02-18-10 05:44 PM

Neal I use Capture by AnalogX. Go here:

http://www.analogx.com/cgi-bin/cgisr...&submit=Search

Download what you need. :yeah:


Captured this Yahoo page using "Capture".

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y116/oleman/YoNeal.jpg

A very useful tool sometimes. :up: TheCapture camera icon is shown here as a "Camera Flash" on the task bar ( third icon from left ). Normally the icon just looks like a camera. When you boot up your computer the "Capture" icon is located with the other icons on your desktop, just click on it and it will stay ( until reboot or you remove it ) in bottom task tray.

You may pick one of his newer ones as mine is from Win 98 and works like a charm..........If it ain't broke, don't fix it. :arrgh!:

Onkel Neal 02-18-10 08:11 PM

Hey, cool, will it take full motion video of the desktop?

609_Avatar 02-18-10 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens (Post 1272821)
Hey, cool, will it take full motion video of the desktop?

Looks like it's only a screen capture utility.


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