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CastleBravo 07-14-09 08:38 PM

Release the documents. I think a POTUS can do that., no?

Max2147 07-14-09 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CastleBravo (Post 1134329)
I don't think it is up to me to prove anything with any link. Seems to be a staight forward question.

Release the documents. I think a POTUS can do that., no?

Hundreds of thousands of dollars suppressing the issue. This time a judge is willing to hear the case. Nothing to fear, Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii.

We were asking for a link for your "hundreds of thousands of dollars" claim.

SteamWake 07-14-09 08:46 PM

LOL your talking about a guy who got the media to not mention his middle name. :O:

CastleBravo 07-14-09 08:48 PM

Release the documents. I think a POTUS can do that., is that too much to ask?

razark 07-14-09 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CastleBravo (Post 1134348)
Release the documents. I think a POTUS can do that., is that too much to ask?

You keep saying that, and asserting the "fact" that Obama has spent large amounts of money to hide something.

Please, can you point me to a link that can tell me more about this? Can you point me to a link that will show that the document released already is not the correct document needed?

Because, if you continue to repeat it, and are unable to back up your claim with evidence, I must assume that you are either not being truthful, or have accepted someone else's claims without that source being able to back them up.

Razark

Max2147 07-14-09 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake (Post 1134347)
LOL your talking about a guy who got the media to not mention his middle name. :O:

What other President has been referred to with his middle name? Some used their middle initial, but I can't think of many who were routinely referred to with their middle name.

August 07-14-09 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Max2147 (Post 1134361)
What other President has been referred to with his middle name? Some used their middle initial, but I can't think of many who were routinely referred to with their middle name.

Not that I believe in the theory but the media talking heads must have referred to "George Herbert Walker Bush" at least a billion times during the past 8 years... Come to think of it Clinton had his share of "William Jefferson's too.

CastleBravo 07-14-09 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by razark (Post 1134360)
You keep saying that, and asserting the "fact" that Obama has spent large amounts of money to hide something.

Please, can you point me to a link that can tell me more about this? Can you point me to a link that will show that the document released already is not the correct document needed?

Because, if you continue to repeat it, and are unable to back up your claim with evidence, I must assume that you are either not being truthful, or have accepted someone else's claims without that source being able to back them up.

Razark

Beyond the fact that POTUS should release all his documents, I can think of no other reason to ask for original documents. Why don't you think that?

mookiemookie 07-14-09 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1134364)
Not that I believe in the theory but the media talking heads must have referred to "George Herbert Walker Bush" at least a billion times during the past 8 years... Come to think of it Clinton had his share of "William Jefferson's too.

Possibly because they were trying to differentiate him from his son who shared the same name.

The only reason the wingnuts constantly use Obama's middle name is to reinforce the xenophobic "oh my god he's got a brown person name!" anti-Muslim sentiment.

GoldenRivet 07-14-09 10:15 PM

why does his name being a "brown persons name" have anything to do with it?

Several US Presidents have had their middle names used.

stop being so sensitive.

America is slowly realizing that they made a very poor choice in their president.

should be interesting to see where this goes.

i think if you had told me in 2007 that there would be someone with the name "Hussein" in the white house in 2009 would have run your ass out of town with laughter and rotten fruit.

i think just about 98% of Americans would have too.

its amazing how things change over such a short time.

its as if you would go back in time to the date that Roosevelt died... only to be replaced by someone named "Hirohito".

makes about as much sense. :doh:

August 07-14-09 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1134369)
Possibly because they were trying to differentiate him from his son who shared the same name.

The only reason the wingnuts constantly use Obama's middle name is to reinforce the xenophobic "oh my god he's got a brown person name!" anti-Muslim sentiment.

Yeah right Mookie. Clintons people stole all the Ws off the White House keyboards when they left just to differentiate father from son. I'm sure the Moonbats didn't really mean to cause all the media attention that resulted from it.

Max asked for an example of who else was routinely referred to by their middle names and I provided two used by the main stream media.

I did not talk about motivation.

But since you bring it up, paybacks a bitch ain't it? Especially when your man has the same name as the murderous dictator we recently deposed. At least it's not as bad as "Bush-hitler"...

razark 07-14-09 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CastleBravo (Post 1134366)
Beyond the fact that POTUS should release all his documents, I can think of no other reason to ask for original documents. Why don't you think that?

So, you support the previous president releasing all the documents he was asked for by assorted people over the eight years he was in office?

If not, why is this president any different?

Chances are that you will not answer this question, and if you do it will be in a vauge manner and then go back to the broken record you have been going on with this whole thread.

Can someone provide any link to a news story covering Obama's cover-up of his birth certificate, the amount of money he has spent in this process, and why the released document does not apply?

As for Obama releasing the records, he has released what is needed, it has passed scrutiny, and the world shall move on, except for those looking for any reason to discredit him.

If you want to discredit the man, attack his policies and his decisions. Back up your attacks with _why_ they are wrong. His name, his ethnicity, his birth... these are not valid attacks. Either show why he is wrong, or leave it be. By constantly harping on the same thing without being able to support your position, you just come off looking like a nutcase.

Razark

GoldenRivet 07-14-09 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1134378)
Max asked for an example of who else was routinely referred to by their middle names and I provided two used by the main stream media.

Franklin Delano Roosevelt

George W. Bush

George Herbert Walker Bush

William Jefferson Clinton

Lyndon Baines Johnson

Richard Milhous Nixon

just to name a few who regularly had middle names (or initials) used in media.

HunterICX 07-15-09 03:31 AM

Am I the only one thinking that Major is a selfish bastard as he thinks ''HE'' shouldn't have to go?

HunterICX

TheSatyr 07-15-09 05:55 AM

Obama is NOT a US Citizen. He is an Indonesian citizen who used an Indonesian passport up to the late 90s early 2000s. His mother renounced both her and Obama's US citizenship when she moved to Indonesia. The only way Obama could get into the schools he went to in Indonesia was by being an Indonesian citizen. There is absolutely no proof that he ever in fact regained US citizenship,and even if he did,I would think that renouncing your citizenship would disqualify you. And if he has dual citizenship,than that would disqualify him as well.

An FBI agent was asked if the FBI vetted Presidential candidates. While he gave the answer anonymously,the answer was very telling. He stated that it was up to the DNC and RNC to vett their candidates. No agency in the Federal Government checks to see if a candidate is a US citizen.

IF Obama was born in Kenya that would disqualify him as President regardless of whether his mother was a US citizen or not. To be President,you have to be born on US soil,which includes military bases. And their are no military bases in Kenya.

Personally,I think the whole Kenya thing is a red herring thrown out there to get people to look in the wrong direction. We should be looking at the Indonesian part of Obama's life.

Frankly,I think that's why he's trying to push through his agenda as quickly as he is. He is looking over his shoulder knowing that he could get removed as soon as the truth comes to light.


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