The Star Trek Online Game is in production for 2 years now,
not completed yet,
but will be soon,
Lets not forget,
Star Trek Is Simulation,
Like Silent Hunter,
All is done is done to Revive,
Kirk & Spock,
Star Trek revolves around the Original Crew,
This Movie has done this,
Apple Deck or not,
We will see a New generation of Fans,
Based on the Original Name,
Star Trek :yeah:

Furthermore, Star Trek Online (ST:O) is not suppose to be part of the movie timeline of Alternate Star Trek (AST), as Memory Alpha is calling it. Rather it is suppose to be set 20 years past the events of Star Trek Nemesis, which is also the period which Spock "Alpha", and Nero comes from. They are presently posting that timeline, as they are developing it, on their webpage.
forum.trek-rpg.net is going to be forming a fleet/squadron which I will be joining, as that is a community that I have been a part of since I started RPGing Star Trek.
I have my reservations about each playet being allowed to command their own starship. However, this is taking after Starfleet Command game series, and seeing how enduring that is, I don't blame them for going for this route. It would just be nice to have other than NPCs as your heads of divisions on your ship once you move into really bohemith vessels, like the Galaxy Class. But then again, now you get to have NPC pets who you can level into those positions, or train up.
Myself I am going to try to get that Akira Carrier Variant (if they allow it) Fill the space around me with up to 60 Peregrins, each with their own set of Torpedo Tubes. It'll be glorious. And imagine the scanning/exploration ability, that that many sensors could do.

It was not that terrible. But several thing in plot make that idea. Also the necessaty of explaining the movie with the time line of TOS and beyond is one thing that kill the movie. :nope:
I liked the way they over do the TOS tech in the shipa and the bridge is completly the other way, even with a window (the window cracks and "well good night").
At least the tried to appel to everybody, the put Pike in a wheel chair! And at least he could still talk...:O:

PS: Voyager didn't kill ST! Brannon, braga and Enterprise (the 3 seasons) kill ST. Voyager was diffrent, plot had the moments of "one can put their hand in the head", but they manage to get better, and do something that belong to TNG universe.

Enterprise was the result of voyager tampering.

Seriously it would be absolutely stupid to do a show in the aftermath of voyager. Every few episodes of voyager saw a HUGE jump in tech. All and all they got almost everything they needed for transwarp for one.

So they had a choice they could go to the era between TOS and TNG which would be a borefest for nontrekkies or they could screw the cannon and go before TOS.

As a result Enterprise screwed with the timeline cannon and resulted in years of people having to explain inconsistencies. (Thank geez for Memory Alpha!)

Ill admit it was getting GOOD in season 4 and I still want a season 5 but other than a season 5 Star Trek in the normal cannon and in film or TV is finished.

I will indeed call the new trek Alternative Star Trek because that is acknowledging their freedom to edit the future of trek to not have to remain with ties to the past.

About Star Trek online. It will be fun but they are cheating in a way in allowing MMO elements to magically "disappear" Super federation advantages got from the years voyager spent in the delta quadrant.

What I am figuring at this point is they are closing off the portions involved with the $$$ stuff and letting the rest of the timeline in old trek go to the trekkies who make the fanfics, role playing games, etc... They get acess to everything in the AST.

Not to mention all the times that janeway had the chance to get her crew back to the alpha quadrant and didn't in favor off other stuff! :D

I LOVED it, yes it had flaws... I had to giggle at Chekov (sp?) with his pretty bad accent. On the whole I really enjoyed it, I actually want to go and see it again lol. By the way, I hated the new warp effect.... the blue ball behind the warp nacelles... why couldn't they keep the original effect?


Thing I hated the most.......

Photon torpedoes are RED not freakingBLUE! Those are quantam torpedoes you fools! lol :damn:.


Live long and prosper! :salute:





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If in this timeline they know that the Romula's star will go nova from the older Spock, can't they just get there a bit quicker do what Spock wanted to do in the first place, Nero wouldn't havea motive and thus the original timeline would be restored with Vulcan never have been destroyed, because nero would never have gone back to alter it..... ????

Actually Photons Torpedoes in the TOS era were blue and had a MUCH bigger punch than the ENT or TNG counterparts. The red ones are different in that they are much more maneuverable and MUCH faster and can fire at warp.

And spock diddn't cause the Nova. He did his best to try to warn the romulans about it. http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Star_Trek:_Countdown

BTW Dont you get it? THe whole idea of this movie was to "Preserve" The old trek by using Late TNG tech to create another "Star Trek" Timeline that isnt some temporary thing to be fixed. The writers get access to this new trek while the trekkies and ST Online have access to the old trek. Its perfect!

Fair enough, I thought they were always red :damn:. I meant that Spock arrived too late to use the matter bomb on the sun.... so now he could get there quicker to stop the nova happening and thus changing the timeline. I understand why they did it, and it is genius... they get to do what they like without fear of conflicting with something in the original timeline... thus preventing any conflict with the fan base over story lines.

The countdown comic explains the sun issue completely and Memory Alpha describes the comics well tho I plan to buy all 4 of em for my collection.

And yes it is genius. The old trekkies were getting ready to admit that Star Trek was not going to survive effectively in the future. This prevents that.

This will also really open the way for more fan works. And as computer tech gets better and video tech trickles down. The fan works are getting better than ever!

Not to mention gaming.

+/- The first time they were red (big discution when the enterprise got torpedos in TOS due to what is said in TNG episodes and the location of the launchers is also something, like were was scotty engine room in ROS)! Then white/blue. In the motion picture they were blue again! One can argue diffrent types and diffrent special effects!:D

Me thinks you all drink too much romulan ale muhahahahaa. :()1:

And I drink, I'm drinking right know to forgett the movie!:()1: http://www.getsmileyface.com/sm/drink/trink14.gif

As I mentioned, I prefer not to even think about the 2 Spocks, just hurts my head.

I have to wonder about the original plan though???

Consider a few other items:

Given the planet is fully populated and the Romulan sun is about to go supernova and fry all the poor habitants of Romulus... Is creating a black hole where the sun used to be really gonna save em? :hmmm:

Spock was stranded, I believe, on a moon of Vulcan (Hoth I think it was :03:). He watches from the moon as Vulcan gets sucked into a black hole, but apparently neither the gravitational pull of Vulcan or the black hole is strong enough to pull in Hoth? :hmmm:

I guess they were special black holes that were just big enough to pull in a planet and then they disappear.

Love it or hate it,
Lets give it a :yeah:
Its fresh,its New,
After watching the movie at the local cinema,
went home,my 10 yr old son asks?
Dad where is that Star Trek Collection you have?
goes to his room with it,
there is the effect of the movie,,
Its Fun,
Long may it last :salute:

Finally got to see it tonight! (Had to wait for my daughter to finish her semester so we could all see it together). I've been avoiding this thread for a week, now I can relax and read spoilers :)

Anything Star Trek is always a pro for me, and being old school TOS fan, I am glad the new movie did not have the Next Gen vibe. They filled out the characters well, the actors playing Kirk, Scotty, Spock, and McCoy were gold. No one can replicate the intensity and devotion to duty and ship that was Shatner, but Pine did ok. Zachary Quinto played Spock very well, too.

It was fast paced, which is sorta good, it builds excitement, but not much suspence. The old series always had time for Kirk to bluff and BS his way around, this movie moved at warp speed.

Ack, I hate time travel storylines! I've been staggering through LOST, and now Trek starts all kinds of capers with time travel. Close my eyes, it will go away...

The score was rousing but so much so, it kinda distracted me. I guess when you get older, you begin to pick up on music cues too easily. This is the regretful music, here's the ha-ha cute comment music, oh! THIS is the earth at stake battle music... I liked it, but I think they overdid it a little, and besides, can anything beat the music scores from the original series. That stuff was great!

Big thumbs down on blowing up Vulcan Why not kill off Earth while you're at it? :x

Also, while I'm griping, stop messing with warp speed. It ain't like hyperdrive or whatever they did in Star Wars. You can accelerate from sub-light to Warp One, and on up to Warp Six (Eight in emergencies, like trying to beat a yellow light or a train) seemlessly, without losing contact with the rest of the Universe.

Haha, I love the new bridge (but I can see where it could use a little more color besides Apple white) and I see they kept the miniskirts!

The effects were superb, both in technical proficiency and in application. The scene when Enterprise warped around Vulcan, the great, majestic view of Enterprise rising from the dust of Titan, and the hammering action shots of Enterprise to the rescue. Awesome to look at. Some of the aliens were too weird for us, give me humanoids any day, weird aliens stand out too much.

The plot was very similar to several exisitng Trek stories, nothing really earth shattering, but serviceable. I hope they put more effort into a really good story for the sequel, now that they have the characters introduced. Yes, we have seen the Earth under attack a million times, this is space shuttle territory, let's get Trek back out in the galaxy where it belongs, exploring strange, new worlds, seeking out new life and new civilizationsm, and boldly going where no man has gone before (that's right, I said man). Gimme some morality plays and hit some philiosphical notes next time. And more alien women for Kirk.


The movie was good, very entertaining, and we enjoyed it. Seven dilithium crystals out of ten. :up: