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Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl (Post 1100867)

I'm posting this here as well as the alliance forum to get our member nations to sit up and take notice of what just happened.

Essentially, two nations just decided that everyone else is bound by law to sell their goods at garage-sale prices.
I think that in proposing this law, JALU3 probably had good intentions, but he's going to hurt smaller nations, especially those that produce very common goods, or that already have weak economies.

I'm proposing some discussion and possible modification to the bill here:
http://www.nationstates2.com/g/forums/thread/24078455

I have already replyed in game. My intention was that everyone within the alliance be able to trade, and have diplomatic levels, that were as equally favorable to all within it. That is, we all provide to the others within the alliance the goods which they need, at the lowest price. That means, they are able to have more funds to spend on items that one cannot get within the alliance, with those nations who are outside it. What's the term, the economy of shared quantity?
However, I do agree it should have been passed within more than 2 of 10 total member nations. Thus as I responded, that maybe in the future all legislation must be cosponsored by 1/2 of total member nations +1 member nations in order for legislation even to be proposed, thus it would pass, if all cosponsers vote yes, automatically upon being put up to a vote.

Since we allowed to nominate our own nations to offices in the alliance, I have nominated myself to be the Alliance Chief. :haha:

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Originally Posted by JALU3 (Post 1102648)

Since we allowed to nominate our own nations to offices in the alliance, I have nominated myself to be the Alliance Chief. :haha:

No, you haven't, you only made a post in the forum about that...

Or maybe I just don't see it until it updates...

I did make a post about it, but I also didn't saw where the nation Northwestern Bigfootia was elected to be elevated to the Head of Foreign Affaris, or that it was agreed that such an office be created, other than that there be elected officials, at it did not say what those offices were, what their responsibilities be, and for what terms, in any legislation.

And nominated...

I have proposed the following law under the name 'The Subsim Alliance' passage of legislation into law act

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Whereas, the Intermember Relations Act was passed with only two votes

Whereas, the Intermember Relations Act was only up for a vote for less than 48 hours

Whereas, the Intermember Relations Act did not have any vetting prior to being put up to a vote

Be it enacted by the governments of the member nations of ‘The Subsim Alliance’ that,

Section I. Legislation Rules
A. Legislation Proposal
1. All legislation proposed must have been posted in ‘The Subsim Alliance’ for at least 7 days in order for it to be brought to a vote.
a. The title of the legislation proposed shall be formatted as follows: “Legislation Proposal – (Name of Proposed Legislation)”
2. All legislation proposed must have at least one cosponsoring member nation in order for it to be brought to a vote.
a. If the legislation proposed does not receive a cosponsor within 7 days, it cannot be opened to a vote.
b. The legislation proposed text must be amended in order for it to be repurposed.
B. Voting
1. The time limit by which legislation proposed are open to a vote shall be no less than the time it takes for at least one half of member nations of to have placed a vote in regards to the legislation proposed, but no more than 14 days from the day which the vote began.
2. No legislation proposed may be enacted into law for ‘The Subsim Alliance’ without a simple majority (1/2 total member nations +1) having voted yea

Section II. Ratification of Legislation Rules
A. Effective date.
1. This legislation shall take effect immediately upon being passed.
B. Retroactive enacting.
1. All legislation enacted into law prior to this legislation shall be abolished as a law.
2. All legislation enacted into law prior to this legislation shall immediately and without amending of text be proposed according to these rules.

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Originally Posted by JALU3 (Post 1102648)

Since we allowed to nominate our own nations to offices in the alliance, I have nominated myself to be the Alliance Chief. :haha:

TRAITOR!

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Originally Posted by Kapitan_Phillips (Post 1102723)

TRAITOR!

Who died and made you king? No one. That's right, uhuh, you heard me, I did it. Democracy Represent! :|\\

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Originally Posted by JALU3 (Post 1102752)

Who died and made you king? No one. That's right, uhuh, you heard me, I did it. Democracy Represent! :|\\

I made you! :stare:

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Originally Posted by Kapitan_Phillips (Post 1102823)

I made you! :stare:

Haha, not, have had this nation for quiet a long time before the alliance was ever established. You forget that.

I voice my support for Kapitan_Phillips and Vulcansu to continue their tenure as Head of the Alliance for the time being.

I don't have any real argument as to why what is basically a third-world nation should lead the alliance other than that it was KP's idea, and he's a smart guy, even if his country is....still developing. :DL

I would also like to voice my support for the Subsim Alliance Act. I would have preferred that a 2/3 majority be required to pass legislation, but I don't think NS2 includes that feature.
I think that this act will make the legislative process more balanced, and it does not contain flagrant spelling errors:O:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph...ad_675904c.jpg

I, the leader of the Holy Empire of Wotsitstania also pledge my support for Kapitan Phillips and Vulcansu to be the leader of the Subsim Alliance.

JALU! Now you screwed up the whole alliance

Fix it, now

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Originally Posted by Raptor1 (Post 1103069)

JALU! Now you screwed up the whole alliance

Fix it, now

How did I screw it up?
I abolished positions that were not agreed upon, I asked for legislation to codify alliance positions. I added a description to the alliance, and allowed all members to invite new members, edit the alliance description, and alliance history .. and have increased the voting time for to 7 days so all players, daily and casual have a fair amount of time to cast a vote on proposed legislation.

The positions were agreed upon, they just haven't been put to the vote to keep them flexible, and I didn't see anyone complaining

Besides, the alliance description doesn't fit the game at all

Oh, and everyone could invite people before too...