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August 11-07-08 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Konovalov
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Originally Posted by August
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Originally Posted by McBeck
Did you know that Denmark is a terrorist target now because of our support to you in Afghanistan and Iraq? We, and alot of other european countries, have supported you to the best of our abillities because of 9/11!!
You better step up if called upon! We have recently proved that we can/will...

Oh c'mon, you're saying that your newspapers published those anti-muhammed cartoons in support of our efforts in Afghanistan and Iraq?

Sorry but hasn't Denmark sent troops to both Iraq and Afghanistan? Wouldn't he be referring to that mentioned support for the US post 9/11 rather than what you have suggested? :-?

The only threats that have been made against Denmark that i know of were the huge anti-Dane rallies all over the middle east that were over the cartoon flap. Now i'm not disparaging Denmarks coalition military commitments but i'd say if Denmark itself is threatened it's mainly because of the cartoons, not their soldiers overseas.

McBeck 11-07-08 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by August
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Originally Posted by Konovalov
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Originally Posted by August
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Originally Posted by McBeck
Did you know that Denmark is a terrorist target now because of our support to you in Afghanistan and Iraq? We, and alot of other european countries, have supported you to the best of our abillities because of 9/11!!
You better step up if called upon! We have recently proved that we can/will...

Oh c'mon, you're saying that your newspapers published those anti-muhammed cartoons in support of our efforts in Afghanistan and Iraq?

Sorry but hasn't Denmark sent troops to both Iraq and Afghanistan? Wouldn't he be referring to that mentioned support for the US post 9/11 rather than what you have suggested? :-?

The only threats that have been made against Denmark that i know of were the huge anti-Dane rallies all over the middle east that were over the cartoon flap. Now i'm not disparaging Denmarks coalition military commitments but i'd say if Denmark itself is threatened it's mainly because of the cartoons, not their soldiers overseas.

Wrong...Denmark was a target before the cartoons! The cartoons just made it worse and became a world news.
Are you really trying to convince me that you would know more about what happens in/to Denmark than me?

August 11-07-08 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by McBeck
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Originally Posted by August
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Originally Posted by Konovalov
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Originally Posted by August
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Originally Posted by McBeck
Did you know that Denmark is a terrorist target now because of our support to you in Afghanistan and Iraq? We, and alot of other european countries, have supported you to the best of our abillities because of 9/11!!
You better step up if called upon! We have recently proved that we can/will...

Oh c'mon, you're saying that your newspapers published those anti-muhammed cartoons in support of our efforts in Afghanistan and Iraq?

Sorry but hasn't Denmark sent troops to both Iraq and Afghanistan? Wouldn't he be referring to that mentioned support for the US post 9/11 rather than what you have suggested? :-?

The only threats that have been made against Denmark that i know of were the huge anti-Dane rallies all over the middle east that were over the cartoon flap. Now i'm not disparaging Denmarks coalition military commitments but i'd say if Denmark itself is threatened it's mainly because of the cartoons, not their soldiers overseas.

Wrong...Denmark was a target before the cartoons! The cartoons just made it worse and became a world news.
Are you really trying to convince me that you would know more about what happens in/to Denmark than me?

I'm not trying to convince you of anything. Exactly what were the these pre-cartoon threats in the form of and from who?

PeriscopeDepth 11-07-08 03:17 PM

"My terrorism threats are bigger than yours!" :lol:

Is there a country in the world that doesn't face threats from terrorism (a tactic, not an entity)? This went for Denmark before the cartoons were published, mostly I'm sure for Danish military support of operations in Afghanistan since 2001. Of course the threat of attacks increased after the cartoons being published. To say there was no threat before the publishing of the cartoons is ridiculous. It simply wasn't as big.

PD

McBeck 11-07-08 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by PeriscopeDepth
"My terrorism threats are bigger than yours!" :lol:

Is there a country in the world that doesn't face threats from terrorism (a tactic, not an entity)? This went for Denmark before the cartoons were published, mostly I'm sure for Danish military support of operations in Afghanistan since 2001. Of course the threat of attacks increased after the cartoons being published. To say there was no threat before the publishing of the cartoons is ridiculous. It simply wasn't as big.

PD

Yes sir - thats correct :) I just get ticked off when its stated that did not contribute

Sea Demon 11-07-08 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by McBeck
Actully I dont count on it, Im just pointing out that there ARE obligations. Weather or not the US choose to honor those obligations is a whole other matter.

Let me put it another way. I have always known that if NATO were to dissolve, it would always be done by a Democrat administration not interested in confrontation at any level. Not even to defend allies or our overseas interests. It would be a slow and measured dissolution. Probably in the face of a measured growth in the threat environment. We Republicans largely see our own security tied to yours. If you have protection of your homes and nations from military and uncommon threats, than we do as well. Our liberal Democrats in our country believe that there are either no threats, or we are at fault for those elements which threaten our lives and interests. And their solutions always come down to disarming ourselves in the face of these threats. There is not an example in reverse. Look at Obama's current "change.gov" website. He's already speaking of disarming our nuclear deterrent while the Russians are moving missiles to your borders. This is why I think alot of Europeans are kind of short-sighted to have supported an Obama Presidency with such a ferocious zeal. Your own future security is at risk, and the balance of power in your part of the world is changing even today very quickly. NATO alliance or not, we've just elected an administration not likely to be able or interested confronting these types of challenges. His own new website and past comments on military spending and usage hints at that. And with a Democrat led Congress who are now proposing massive cuts in military spending (at least 25% so far), it's assured we won't be in any position to support your interests or security in any way. You guys just may come to regret our choice.


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