Christopher. This is just part of the cycle. Don't let it affect you. What Obama has proposed as change in his campaign will not work. Simply put, his brand of government is incompatible with a free nation. I'm willing to give this guy a chance, and watch very vigilantly. But I expect the worst actually. Obama's campaign was a completely fraudulent display. I watched some of the people last night in the crowd and just stood back and shook my head. They have alot of expectations. Expectations Obama cannot fill. If he does what his voters want.....he will most assuredly fail. The more I think about it, the more I'm realizing that this may be the start of a painful Carter era. And look what was brought on the scene after that.

To all of the Obama haters out there, now look just because he is now the president does not mean you just go and say the countrys is going to fail. Personally in a way I feel soory for Obama since he has to go and clean up the mess that Bush felt behind. Even if McCain was elected it still would not be easy, as the US ecnomy is in the toilet!!! I am glad that Obama made it because he will bring change. If McCain was he would let things stay the way that they are now, so those of you here who are of age to retire do you really think that McCain was telling the truth about what he was "going to do", I don't! And to Mr. Snow, you stated that Obama was not a US born citizen well you are WRONG!!!!! John McCain is the one who is not a US born citizen, McCain was born in a Naval Air Station inside of the Panama Canal Zone so techniclly he is not a US born citizen.:huh: Don't belive me well look here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCain. So who's not a US born citizen now Mr. Snow. Obama was born in Hawaii and most of his family are US citizens which would make him one as well.:know: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obama

To be honest, I've never understood why the United States limits presidential candidates to strictly US born people. I can understand needing to be a naturalised citizen, and the necessity for a political background such as governor, but surely it should be left to the voters who goes into office.

What happens when a foreign born politician has great ideas, but is restricted from enacting them?

Rules is rules as held up by the Constitution. Then again, Washington has a way of bending the Constitution's rules to fit their need. Nice, huh?

Who would have guessed someone who spent $600 million on advertising would
win the election. No doubt he will be working closely with his large, industrial
contributors when it comes to policy making.
As for any substantial differences: we shall see in time, but I will be surprised if
differences in the perception of the US leader are matched by any departure from
US policy as it has been since 2001.

Amen.

its not a perfect system but its the best in america :88)

Im not opposed to Obama being president... even if i was it wouldnt matter.

However i am concerned about what his tax agenda is, i have mixed feelings about his stance on stem cell research and im very nervous about what his victory means for not only my brand new small business, but also what it means to my ever increasing obligation to financially support the ghettos.

I didnt like where i was in life 3 or 4 years ago, so i devised a plan to change that before i hit 30.

so far the plan has worked, and im on a road to success.

i just dont understand why some of these people in the "ghettos" are unable to do the same?

I mean i made $12,000 on a good year for God's sake... how much worse can it get next to homelessness??? and you honestly mean to try to sell me the garbage that there is nothing these people can do to better themselves? that my money has to be given to them without argument.

:nope:

only time will tell

Of course, you are succeeding purely because you are lucky. ;) It has nothing to do with your initiative, determination, making good choices, doing without some luxuries, sacrifice, hard work. You just got lucky, man. You need to pay more in taxes to those hard working people who aren't as lucky as you. :rotfl:

I want a return to the Rule of Law with NO ONE above the law. The past 8 years were an exercise in the flouting of the rule of law, evisceration of liberties and a winking at Republican and corporate corruption. Obama, as a Constitutional Scholar with a deep sense of history, can bring that about. When you have people like Warren Buffet, Colin Powell and Paul Volcker working for the Obama team, that bodes well for the nation. I want CLEAN, HONEST government. I can think of no better way to achieve that and provide true bipartisanship than enlisting the many Republicans who were thrown under the bus by the Bush administration to restore accountability. That's why I suggested Joe Wilson, David Iglesias and others like Carol Lam be brought onto the team. They were honest Republicans who paid the price for showing integrity under pressure. Iglesias was fired for refusing to bring charges against corrupt Dems here in NM prematurely. Because of that, they laid their cases out correctly and obtained convictions against those same corrupt Dems. It's corruption I hate, not Republicans.

As for Arnie and the native-born citizen requirement, that means Arnie's children can grow up to become President. You have a higher regard for the nation when the bones of your ancestors lie in it's ground.

The bad thing is, it's not only people in the ghettos. An alarming number of Americans believe that they are owed a living. They look at the US government as a means to guarantee their economic security. They use the government as their own means to plunder the private property of the self-sufficient, and refuse to accept responsibility in their own lives. You should see how I used to live when I was in college. Dirt poor is putting it mildly. Yet, I always voted for economic freedom (even then) and understood that government was an impediment to securing financial success. You work your way out. In the case of the many who voted for Obama, it has been all about "what is in it for me". Look at that Peggy the Mooch. She believes if she "helps" Obama, Obama is gonna "help" her. Apparently this loser believes she won't have to pay for her gas or her roof over her head. In the end, she will see Obama won't be able to deliver. The word Pathetric doesn't even sum it up.

How bout' Dem corruption? There is plenty of that up there.

Ishmael as I truly agree with you on the subject of a clean and honest government, it hard to find some clean and honest people in that government. That is why TR must be rollin' around in his grave!

Can't disagree with a word of your text.

If I'm to be totally honest though, it's just that having been so close to some of the decision makers in politics in my time, I've learned not to take any of them too seriously....and certainly NEVER trust them.

What I do dwell on and take serious though is the consideration I give to the potential consequences of some of their actions/decisions.

I tend to subscribe to the words once spoken by a wise man (Billy Connolly a Scottish comedian actually) :lol:

"Don't vote, it only encourages the bastids".

I think it is too often the case that (in voting terms)....your damned if you do and your damned if you don't.

Christopher Snow,

I have to hand it to you. You have an extreme viewpoint, are as you say "scared ****less" and have the ability to express your viewpoint again and again.

Without really being rude. And even consciously working some humor into your posts.

In all seriousness, while I may not agree with your posts I can read them without throwing up and sometimes even had a funny grin on my face.

Excellent job! Not something one often sees on such a politicized (polarized) forum. :D

PD

Can say we in good ol' Germany are all very happy with your choice. I know things look a lot different on your side of the pond. But look, even if you hate the guy, owing to Obama it is a lot less likely that people will spit out before you or make a fist when you leave your beloved country, just because now he will be President of the United States. I know that sounds harsh, but our love for your country has suffered dramatically in the last years, but we are inclined to like the USA, so here many people are happy about the new start. You should have done that 4 years ago actually, what waste of time, money and reputation these Bush years have been for you.

I have collegues from Syria, even they have new hope, unbelieveable when they were so bitter yesterday about your disrespect of their borders and the million or so refugees from Iraq. They want to return to normality like everyone else.

Alas, I didn't want to end on a negative note. When you see it from outside of the USA, it's really a great day today. I know it might not be yours, but from my point of view Obama is the ideal American, no matter if his ass is black or white.