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Originally Posted by Rockstar

Just once I'd like to see something from euro pantywaists which actually amounted to something tangible something where you euros actually righted a wrong. Just once I'd like to see you stand up for something. Just once I'd love to see you step up to the plate.

If you were not totally ignorant of the world around you, you had seen all those things you desire over the last decades.

We should send Georgia a few thousand of these:

http://www.valleyvet.com/swatches/17174_L_xxx_000.jpg

I hear the Russians have been a little slow to move on back to their former homeland.

Some perspectives on The First Casualty...

http://geimint.blogspot.com/2008/08/...formation.html

Good Hunting

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Originally Posted by Randomizer

Some perspectives on The First Casualty...

http://geimint.blogspot.com/2008/08/...formation.html

Good Hunting

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Neither Georgia nor Russia are entirely without fault in the current conflict. Georgia escalated the conflict by attacking the South Ossetian capital of Tskhinvali following clashes with separatists. Russia took it to a wholly different level with a massive military campaign designed to deny Georgia the ability to inflict further damage to South Ossetia. However, misreporting and deliberate distortion of the facts by the worldwide media has led to a convoluted picture of the events that have taken place. The fact that so many of the most commonly reported news items can be disassembled piece by piece with a few minutes of research places doubts on the credibility and objectivity of these establishments. When dealing with Russia after the cessation of hostilities, it would be wise to remember that there is no evidence to suggest a preplanned and orchestrated campaign to allow Russia to invade South Ossetia and Georgia. Painting Russia as a resurgent Evil Empire is a sign of unsubstantiated bias and nothing more. After all, Russia did warn Georgia that escalation was possible, and Saakashvili chose to give them the excuse needed to ensure the integrity of South Ossetia, perhaps permanently. Arguing that Russia's methods were overkill is one thing, accusing them of trying to take over the Caucasus is another thing entirely.

In this context, former chancellor Schroeder, a man with whom I only rarely - very rarely - agree, gave this general assessement of the conflict and the role Russia plays, and i must say this is one of the rare opportunities when I partially agree with him, though not on every detail. Of course he takes heavy fire here in Germany, for he is violating the politicians' unspoken consesus to judge the whole thing from a position of very one-sided anti-Russian bias:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...572686,00.html

Interesting interview. Especially, IMHO, the last question.

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SPIEGEL: Are you speaking in your capacity as former chancellor or as an employee of the Russian state-owned company Gazprom?
Schröder: SPIEGEL should not participate in the spreading of misinformation. I am not anyone's employee, but rather the chairman of the shareholders' committee of Nord Stream, a Dutch-German-Russian joint venture, whose sole purpose is to build a pipeline through the Baltic Sea that will make Germany's and Europe's gas supply significantly more secure.

Yes. To say he is taking Flak over that here in germany would be an understatement.

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Originally Posted by Digital_Trucker

Interesting interview. Especially, IMHO, the last question.

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He is also a family friend of Putin, they have spent holidays together..

Perhaps U.S wants a strong army in georgia to cut in two the path between russia and iran in case of an attack. Very usefull in case of war for open a second front

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Originally Posted by Digital_Trucker

Interesting interview. Especially, IMHO, the last question.

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He is also a family friend of Putin, they have spent holidays together..

And Putin even visited Bush on his ranch. If that is no argument.

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Originally Posted by Skybird

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Originally Posted by Happy Times

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Originally Posted by Digital_Trucker

Interesting interview. Especially, IMHO, the last question.

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He is also a family friend of Putin, they have spent holidays together..

And Putin even visited Bush on his ranch. If that is no argument.

You cant deny Schröder is in Putins pocket?

Putin: the brutal despot who is dragging the West into a new Cold War

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-Cold-War.html

The question I would have to ask about Schroeders visits to Putin is, did he do it while in office or when he was no longer in any official capacity? If a former Chancellor visits Putin and vacations with him, I would be highly suspect of the relationship. If Putin visits Bushes ranch while both are in office, there are many explanations.

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Originally Posted by Digital_Trucker

The question I would have to ask about Schroeders visits to Putin is, did he do it while in office or when he was no longer in any official capacity?

Both, they are friends and business partners.

That answers that one, thanks.