Too many people on the planet. Reduce the world human population down to say 3 billion or so and watch the problem dissapear.

:hmm:
Any volunteers?

No, but a strong defense industry lobby, a strong pharmacological lobby, a huge chemical lobby, a huge financial and economical lobby.

When you have the power to chose who has to volunteer, you do not depend on them agreeing.

Lets get the facts on the table:

600 scientists agree that there is humn caused global warming (and since it may be cooling now, they have retracted that statement and called it climate change now)

31,000, including 9,000 PhD's all say this is BS. Humans are not responsible.

So let me get this straight, we have a bunch of what? Pinheads pushing an agenda for climate change? And you are saying this is a financial thing for the 31K? Heck no! That tells me that 600 scientists are in someones pocket. No other way about it, and we have a bunch of people that can't think for themselves that agree with them.

Nice world we have here. Enough said. Please continue on with your propaganda. Sorry for the interruption.

-S

Those aren't facts Subman.

Subman we've already cast doubt on the purported 31,000 'scientists' that are against climate change theory. So where is it written that only 600 scientists support man made climate change theory?

This is exactly what people have already pointed out about the denial campaign ie it simply recycles the same flawed material and spews it out again and again and again ad nauseam.

That's not addressing anyone else's post in any kind of serious way.
Your just repeating what you said in the first post in a little more of a vulgar way.

They are facts. Even if a couple names were duplicated, so you go 30K. And the wiki is not a reliable source of information by the way. I can write what I want there too.

And 600 is the number of scientists on the committee. Science by commitee - What happened to science by proven fact? Science by payouts more like.

Letum - Show me someones post that makes sense with fact first.

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And how do you think other science is done if not by a commitee at some point.
wiki was a first stop from there you can link to plenty of other sources discrediting the 31,000 signatures claim.

And it is more than a couple of signatures duplicated and in a time survey a lot of scientists said they wouldn't sign it again.

All of them pro climate change. Same argument you are using to discredit the story itself. :D

What survey?

-S

Are you willing to give up motor vehicles, or doing without a computer or maybe even electricity itself? Are you willing do without heat in the winter? These are the types of things we'll have to do to significantly cut Co2 emissions and as world population continues to grow, more cuts will have to be made.

Just a FYI - I checked the list of names. I personally couldn't find one that was duplicated.

-S

I think goverment emphisis would be a good start. Lets start with basic steps before giving up motor vehicles, electricity and making cows extinct etc, etc.

Government emphasis? You mean like this?:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1212...mEditorialPage

The executive branch would be nice. That article you point to would be nice if there was actually a story about it somewhere and not someones comical opinion on how it's going to be. I haven't seen one. Then again I haven't looked.