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SUBMAN1 04-16-08 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikhayl
christian BS.

Hardly! :D Try common sense which seems to be lacking here I see. :p

-S

SUBMAN1 04-16-08 11:58 AM

Here is a paper on it, though I am not aware how to obtain the full paper yet. THe abstract however is probably all you need to get the jist:

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Exploring the Relationship Quality of Unmarried Couples with Children

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This analysis uses qualitative interview data from the Time, Love and Cash in Couples with Children study to explore the dimensions and evolution of relationship quality for parents who were unmarried when their child was born but still together four years later. I compared relationship quality over time for parents who went on to marry or were still together four years after their child’s birth. I found couples who married had higher levels of relationship quality at baseline and these differences persisted over time. Couples that married exhibit more supportiveness, love and trust in each other and experienced fewer serious problems such as infidelity, domestic violence, substance abuse and illegal activities or jail than the other couples. They also exhibited several positive trends in relationship quality over time. Couples that did not marry, but remained together comprised a heterogeneous group with varying levels of relationship quality, although the majority experienced poor or declining relationship quality over time. I discuss implications of the findings for the relationship between relationship quality and union formation for unmarried parents.

http://www.allacademic.com/meta/p_ml...732_index.html

bradclark1 04-16-08 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikhayl
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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
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Originally Posted by mrbeast
Wrong answer, this was the question I wanted a response to:

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Whats better a disfunctional married family or a functional unmarried family?

Disfunctional married family. At least the support structure of a man and a woman still exists with ties between the two. Too many studies on un-married families all say the same thing. These include increased crime rates, to children who grow up and have absolutely no ability to have a relationship, which further leads to single parents once again, turning into a vicious cycle.

I take it you never looked up anything on the Montreal studies like I asked. It shows.

-S

christian BS.

:rotfl:

bradclark1 04-16-08 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
Here is a paper on it, though I am not aware how to obtain the full paper yet. THe abstract however is probably all you need to get the jist:

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Exploring the Relationship Quality of Unmarried Couples with Children


Abstract:
This analysis uses qualitative interview data from the Time, Love and Cash in Couples with Children study to explore the dimensions and evolution of relationship quality for parents who were unmarried when their child was born but still together four years later. I compared relationship quality over time for parents who went on to marry or were still together four years after their child’s birth. I found couples who married had higher levels of relationship quality at baseline and these differences persisted over time. Couples that married exhibit more supportiveness, love and trust in each other and experienced fewer serious problems such as infidelity, domestic violence, substance abuse and illegal activities or jail than the other couples. They also exhibited several positive trends in relationship quality over time. Couples that did not marry, but remained together comprised a heterogeneous group with varying levels of relationship quality, although the majority experienced poor or declining relationship quality over time. I discuss implications of the findings for the relationship between relationship quality and union formation for unmarried parents.

http://www.allacademic.com/meta/p_ml...732_index.html

That may very well be but the reality for the young ones nowadays in the U.S. are that a large segment of the coming to marriage age population are from broken homes so my guess is that they see it as something to be avoided. Most of all my kids high school friends were from broken homes or single parent homes. I have noticed however that I am seeing more lesbian families. Well three to be exact so times are changing and remember this whatever starts in either continent will always make it's way to the other. It's happening here and if you had school age children you would see that unless it's just an east coast phenomenon.

SUBMAN1 04-16-08 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bradclark1
That may very well be but the reality for the young ones nowadays in the U.S. are that a large segment of the coming to marriage age population are from broken homes so my guess is that they see it as something to be avoided. Most of all my kids high school friends were from broken homes or single parent homes. I have noticed however that I am seeing more lesbian families. Well three to be exact so times are changing and remember this whatever starts in either continent will always make it's way to the other. It's happening here and if you had school age children you would see that unless it's just an east coast phenomenon.

You may be right. I'm seeing more a polorized US though, a split right down the middle, and its almost along party lines. I think your ideas hold true in the North, but the South, its just the opposite (excluding places like California). Am I thinking right?

-S

bradclark1 04-16-08 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
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Originally Posted by bradclark1
That may very well be but the reality for the young ones nowadays in the U.S. are that a large segment of the coming to marriage age population are from broken homes so my guess is that they see it as something to be avoided. Most of all my kids high school friends were from broken homes or single parent homes. I have noticed however that I am seeing more lesbian families. Well three to be exact so times are changing and remember this whatever starts in either continent will always make it's way to the other. It's happening here and if you had school age children you would see that unless it's just an east coast phenomenon.

You may be right. I'm seeing more a polorized US though, a split right down the middle, and its almost along party lines. I think your ideas hold true in the North, but the South, its just the opposite (excluding places like California). Am I thinking right?

-S

Yeah, that probably sums it up.

SUBMAN1 04-16-08 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bradclark1
You may be right. I'm seeing more a polorized US though, a split right down the middle, and its almost along party lines. I think your ideas hold true in the North, but the South, its just the opposite (excluding places like California). Am I thinking right?

-S

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Yeah, that probably sums it up.
Divide and conquer. We are no longer one people.

-S

Fish 04-16-08 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Kapitan_Phillips
Well, considering how often the Yanks get divorced and remarried, its no wonder we're behind you.

:rotfl:

PS: We - my wife and me, married for 42 years - have three children, none is married, and we have three grandchildren.
Mariage is out.

mrbeast 04-16-08 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
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Originally Posted by mrbeast
Wrong answer, this was the question I wanted a response to:

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Whats better a disfunctional married family or a functional unmarried family?

Disfunctional married family. At least the support structure of a man and a woman still exists with ties between the two. Too many studies on un-married families all say the same thing. These include increased crime rates, to children who grow up and have absolutely no ability to have a relationship, which further leads to single parents once again, turning into a vicious cycle.

I take it you never looked up anything on the Montreal studies like I asked. It shows.

-S

A pervese answer if ever there was.

BTW what did you think I mean't when I said dysfunctional?

Would not an abusive married family be classed as dysfunctional.

SUBMAN1 04-16-08 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mrbeast
A pervese answer if ever there was.

In response to yours.

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BTW what did you think I mean't when I said dysfunctional?

Would not an abusive married family be classed as dysfunctional.
I can be, but you never made anything that specific. Dysfuctional can also mean poor communication, but maybe you don't even know that.

-S

mrbeast 04-16-08 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
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Originally Posted by mrbeast
A pervese answer if ever there was.

In response to yours.

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BTW what did you think I mean't when I said dysfunctional?

Would not an abusive married family be classed as dysfunctional.
I can be, but you never made anything that specific. Dysfuctional can also mean poor communication, but maybe you don't even know that.

-S

Well I've had enough of your mission to 'save' us 'UKrs' from ourselves

Good night.

Kapitan_Phillips 04-16-08 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
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Originally Posted by mrbeast
Wrong answer, this was the question I wanted a response to:

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Whats better a disfunctional married family or a functional unmarried family?

Disfunctional married family. At least the support structure of a man and a woman still exists with ties between the two. Too many studies on un-married families all say the same thing. These include increased crime rates, to children who grow up and have absolutely no ability to have a relationship, which further leads to single parents once again, turning into a vicious cycle.

I take it you never looked up anything on the Montreal studies like I asked. It shows.

-S

Why cant there be a support structure in co-habiting couples?

Konovalov 04-17-08 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
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Originally Posted by DAB
It appears to be your answer

No it doesn't and you are implying something here. Please stop implying and get with the discussion. THanks.

You are free to ask me that question if you wnat however. THe answer is no - physical abuse is not allowed in my book. But unmarried is equally as bad.

-S

Huh? How can you possibly equate physical abuse between a husband and wife with an unmarried couple?


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