Well, aside from the personal feelings and remarks about this all, no real harm has been done. OLC readed the recommended courtesy rules, understood them and followed them. No permission (Whatever the reason), no release, he has accepted that. Period.

Hopefully in the future things calm down and a new look at this affair is possible. Let this discussion end now if possible, no need to further add anything as all has been said :yep:

Agreed.

Okie dokie.

Anyone want a beer? Hunter air dropped few cases to my foxhole. :up:

Probably for the best. (there was a great deal I had intended to add had RL not intervened)

Apologies for being unable to respond until this late juncture Kpt.
But following on from our TS conversation this morning (8am GMT) and pending exam at 10am it would appear matters are now settled.

The exam seemed to go okay as well.....thanks again sir ;)

Drinks are on Dowly :()1:

Hang on to yer drawers though.... :p

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No worries mate. That is a relief to hear. :up: :up: :up: Will catch up with you in a bit.

What! over already, I can't believe it.. where is all the fun.
I rushed here as fast as I could only to find a frightening looking ferret and some Grey Wolves with a satisfied smile on their lips, drinking beer!
Nice, just Nice.

Maybe is that,
I do not want to make part of any of this
"War party's" that I think Kpt will only get away people that
can realy do and bring diferent stuff into the game!

However I respect you to much to get in the Oposing side
who ever might be , the problem it's not fully coverd by me
and the part I see is the part I comment!

But it's mi opinion and a subt. sugestion!

If he forgot to ask the first time he surely as done
the request after, I do think he haves to treat this
on the private way via PM, and do think he haves to
understand your position but, I do not think it's a reasenable
thing everyone from the team to jump on him beside you as
the Head of the GWX team...

Do not get me the rong way!

I realy think he asn't done it with rong intention!

All for one, one for all, matey. ;)

I have to agree with JCWolf. As a Supervisor myself it looks bad on your team or your department if others are lashing out on someone when it's the supervisor's job to do so (and in private!). It's even worse if the supervisor doesn't counsel the subordinate that his behavior was unacceptable and will not be tolerated. Kpt. makes it apparent that he is the 'team leader' for the GWX project and thus the supervisor or dept. head of said project. The actions of leaders ultimately define the image of the product presented and that image isn't very colorful at the moment. I would've expected a different reaction from him (and a private one at that). Just my personal observation. :shifty: Nothing more needs to be said.

Move on.......nothing to see here :nope:
Have a :()1: before you go.
Don't go drinking any of that KaustikSoda mind ;)

Nothing stops OLC to do the new interfaces from scratch. 90% of the new stuff in GWX have been build from scratch.

I know it would take a lot longer, but one cant assume when beginning a new mod that uses other mod as the basis, that it's automatically fine with the other mod's devs. There's always the risk, that the other team doesnt give the permission, which was the case here. And one should acknowledge that risk.

And what comes to the 'all against one' thingy, I have only one thing to say: friends are worth defending.

<sigh>

...as if I never urge restraint... or as if I 'hand people their opinion.'

No offense, but you guys really are clueless to what goes on in the background and are making too many assumptions. Nor do I need a lecture on how the GWX shop should be run.:shifty:

I do not incite the crew to act... but I may on occasion open the hatch and let them out when the howling gets too loud in the zentraele. I've got no problem fighting my own battles... but when a friend chooses to stand beside me, I'm not going to tell him to bugger off either. These guys have done a truly MASSIVE amount of work for NO PAY and have a vested interest in the outcome of conversations like these. They also have their own thoughts and convictions.

Leave well enough alone people.

We have a saying in Texas... "Mess with the bull and you'll get the horns."

[sorry about the cross-post Dowly... was not directed at you.]

Hitman, I understand your desire to let the thread die, but I wish to comment on a couple of things and will try to do so in a non-inflammatory way.

What I expect is that grown men can, on occasion, put aside their differences and politely (if briefly) communicate and co-operate for the common good.

I think that there is a difference between respect and humility, and it seems to me that some members of the GWX team call for the former and expect the latter.

Come on!

Do you realy know what does mean,

All for one and One for All ! ???


I am not building a fighting ground here,
thought I'm in trenches most of mi time.:yep:

maybe it's the rong atitude maybe it's called something
else, but for me it is not fair what ever reazon might be in
the back lines to form a warParty or linch group and just
drag a guy over the Plains just cause he made a mistake
driven by is own entusiasm!:hmm:


I do know what means " All for one and One for All !"
and I know most of you know also, but is this guy
worth of such treatment????:hmm:

Do not think so!

I have no argument with you there. Hell, I was writing up the approval and further suggestions when YOU blew it with your hateful little response.

Respect is given until there is a reason for it to be absent. You have determined the outcome. You're only unhappy because we aren't seeing things the way you see them.

Meh.