I once stood in downtown Jacksonville Florida and listened to a man and three women rant and rave about how Humans are the cause of Global Warming and pollution of the seas and air and soil. They spoke of cutting back the populace of the world to save Mother earth and to avoid her retaliations against humanity.They gave their solutions for the problems of OVERPOPULATION. I walked up to the man who was speaking at the time pulled my Colt Python from under my vest and handed it to him. I said " There are 5 Bullets in that pistol. There are 4 of you folks and one of me...do the math."

Im not sure how many people believe the way these individuals believe... but I for one wish they would start with themselves.

“The world is undergoing a wonderful change, and we should stop trying to convince the believers that this change is natural - part of the cycle of our planet - and should instead begin to speak of the glorious future ahead. Is the planet warming? Yes! It has been either cooling or warming in cycles for many millions of years. Does mankind have anything to do with this? No, but if some want to believe it, then we should make the case that everything we can do to accelerate global warming should be done.


If the globe warms a few degrees, the benefits for mankind and for the environment will be enormous. The earth’s population is increasing fast - not in the modern industrial nations and not so much in the demographic giants of China and India - but the population is growing fast in areas which are becoming overcrowded.


Global warming will largely solve the problem of inadequate space. Canada, the second largest nation in the world, has enough land to house several entire nations if there were only enough warmth. Russia, the largest nation in the world, has even more land which can be used for people - and the demographic trend of Russia is slow or declining, so Russia will not be filling up those open lands with Russians. Global warming, and the unfreezing of these virgin lands will create an enormous amount of hope for billions of our planets peoples who are now trapped in poor, overcrowded and unproductive lands.


Huge areas of the world that are currently uninhabitable will become inhabitable. The poor will be the beneficiaries, and they will not only gain materially but psychically from the pride of ownership of land. The congestion of cities - one of the biggest social and health problems of our age - will end as people from crowded, nasty, ugly coastal cities move to open farmland and countryside, in touch with nature and living a free and independent life.


One of the most serious problems facing the growing population of the world is an adequate amount of freshwater. Global warming is a tremendous boon to mankind (and to wildlife) in solving this problem: seventy-five percent of the freshwater of our planet is now trapped in glaciers and ice caps, and our technology is insufficient to melt those. Global warming, however, will do that in a slow, predictable way. Pure, clean and abundant water - one of the most precious and essential resources of the healthy and happy lives of all people - we will soon have in increasingly happy amounts.


In fact, we may have enough freshwater that desert areas currently uninhabitable may be able to bloom again. How many problems in the Middle East would be solved if the deserts of Sahara, Arabia and elsewhere were blooming gardens of fruit, flora and grain? How many people could leave the urban hotbeds of radical hatred and instead farm a plot of what had been the Saharan Desert on his own farm?


As the sea rises, some cities will have to rearrange their structures, but that is hardly a calamity. Does anyone really believe that our coastal cities could not be made better and prettier? In fact, the very “problem” of rising waters could lead to some of the best changes in our coastal urban areas. New Orleans has long been below sea level. Some of the most exquisite cities in history - Venice, Stockholm, Amsterdam - are built essentially on water. Far from “destroying” New York or Los Angeles, a long term and well planned construction project to provide for the cities being above the waters can, if we simply wish it, turn ugly urban blight into beautiful cities filled with nature and natural “blue belts” replacing artificial “green belts.”


Warmth is energy. Global warming will, quite naturally, increase the amount of alternative energy available to mankind. The need for heating will decline. The melting ice caps and glaciers will provide vast opportunities for centuries of hydroelectric power. The radiant heat of the warmer earth will be able to be converted directly into useable power, and just when our technology is finding more and more effective ways to derive energy directly from heat.


The environment will be better as well. The number of trees on earth will increase as the glacial areas of our planet recede. Trees are natural purifiers of our air, and we will all breath cleaner and fresher air as global warming enriches our lives. The water will become purer as well, because the water in the melting ice caps is much more pure than our rivers and lakes today.


What can we do to hurry this new edonic age? We should begin by doing all in our meager power to help the planet warm. Repeal all wrong-headed treaties, statutes and regulations which were intended to stop global warming and encourage that behavior which helps warm the planet. Can any of us alone do much to make this happen? Probably not. But we owe it to the planet, to our children, and to the environment to do all we can to hasten global warming. “

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That was a superb post, i have never thought of all that. Excellent man!

Sarcasm, waste_gate? I can't tell

If it is its some of the best sarcasm ever and makes perfect sence:lurk:

Wondering the same thing?

Quote:

“The world is undergoing a wonderful change, and we should stop trying to convince the believers that this change is natural - part of the cycle of our planet - and should instead begin to speak of the glorious future ahead.

Pollution is a problem. The U.S. government has admitted global warming is man made.
The writer is looking through rose colored glasses to make it how he wants. What he has failed to mention anything about is the shift of arable lands to lands of drought. Look at how long the American midwest has been shifting from steady rainfall to drought for more than ten years. The writer assumes or wishes that the uninhabitable lands will become Garden of Eden's and and the now habitable lands stay habitable. I think thats a whole lot of wishful thinking.

You have to scroll down, but this is a very interesting article about global warming solutions ...
You wouldn't believe where I found it unless you go there.

Estonian Wind Farm at Russian Nuke Base

http://www.iran-daily.com/1383/2193/html/energy.htm

My favourite part is where rising sea levels create more arable land..................

Wow, that is the best piece of writing since the "Peace in our time" treaty at Munich! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Haven't laughed so much in ages, Waste gate, where d'ya get this stuff? Some humour site on the net?

Certainly governments can save the human race. No. Human endeavor does that. For millenia man has adapted to and changed his enviroment. Its the far sighted who save the rest of the gloom and doomers. Why cant my previous post not be the vision? Why must some always point to what is wrong with mankind instead of looking toward the challenge and say 'yes we can'. (remember the little engine that could?)

BTW fresh water is the elixor of life. More fresh water means more arable land, even in a warmer climate. Human imagination and hard work is all it takes to bring baren deserts to full bloom.

EDIT: If it were not for men of vision we would not have running water, electricity, computers or this forum.

EDIT 2: You may not like this but there is a great deal of money to be made if the dire global warming predictions are true and if you think in the positive instead of the negative. Above all don't allow government to dictate the path!!!

EDIT 3: Everyone of you who believe in the global warming because of humans scenerio need to turn off all power to your homes. If you post on this thread or any other your arguments are hypocritical. How can you ask others to make sacrifices for the globe if you are not willing to make the sacrafice first?

I personally think global warming is real. I used to think it was alot of left wing Hippi treehugging BS, but over the years ive changed my mind. The evidence and signs are all around us. The problem is many people obstinatly refuse to beleive it. I love it when people point to cold weather as "proof" that global warming is hogwash.

The fact that some areas are getting colder then normal weather IS proof of global warming. In layman's terms, there's two major ocean currents that act is sort of a circulation system. The gulf stream and north atlantic dift, they are responsible for the weather many areas traditionally experience. As the ice caps melt, it throws these circulation systems out of whack with colder water entering this system, resulting in a temperature drop because its not circulating the warmer currents like it used to.

I don't anyone believes that climate change isn't happening Ducimus. The argument is what effect is man having on it and whether we can, or should try to reverse it and what that would mean for our quality of life.

Well, i was responding to the OP. And yes, there are many people who dont' beleive it. You should hear my grandfather on this issue. WOW.

Again, personnally, i don't think we'll do anything about it because of right wing politic's. By the time even they concede that something should be done, it will be too late. I find solice im adopting the same selfish stance as alot of people do..... "ill be dead by then, so it won't matter". Although, a climate shift could concievablyh appen in my lifetime, but ill be one foot in the grave by then anyway, so again, it wont matter.

That's not to say i dont want to do anything about it. I think for starters we need to stop using fossil fuel. Much to the arab words dismay im sure :lol:

You can stop using fossil fuels tomorrow my friend. Call your power company and cancell your service. Do not use your automobile or any conveyance which uses electricity or fuel oil. If you are not willing to do those things don't ask anyone else to make the sacrafice you are not willing to make.

I for one do not believe that human activity has anything to do with any warming so I will continue to use electricity, drive my car and live in the 21st century.

I challenge you to have the courage of your convictions.