I don't think I questioned your atheism. My question was; prove God doesn't exist.
This thread, although stated to the contrary, suggests that God doesn't exist.

I was attempting to show the other side of the arguement, and to allow the atheists to articulate their argument with the same assurity that those who believe in God are asked to provide for their beliefs.

Solution: let's not be condescending to each other.

It's plain that we work on different wavelengths. One wavelength is essentially the affirming one, the other is the denying one. My side of things (if there is such a side) plainly believes in questioning everything until answers come. The other side (generalizing) believes in trusting an established value through which answers will come. Naturally there can be no agreement and the generic "we" seem like the 'meanies' and the generic "you" seem like the 'condescending bunch. Because both will be compromising something at the centre of their being to be able to even respond to the other side in a way that is acceptable. (NB - I don't believe in the "us and them" thing, but let's generalize for now).

Unfortunately, the simple fact is, you can be as comfortable as you'd like, and I will still believe only what I can verify by virtue of reason. I believe there are plenty of things higher than me, but there is nothing higher than a perfectly ordered process by which things are the way they are.

Fair enough. What I don´t get is that you always to speak of a single god. "Those who believe in God", not "those who believe in a god". You don´t specify which god exactly you believe in and you seem to think that there´s only one god, is that correct? If it is, what do you think about people that believe in many different gods and none of them includes yours?

Let me see if I can explain. Firstly, my relationship with God is sacrocant as far as I'm concerned and I will not allow anyone to to bring that relationship or how I speak with Him up for debate. If you plan to question my relationship with my Lord I urge you not to. That being said I will give you some insight as to how I found God.

I have flown airplanes both privately and commercially from 1978 to present.
Much of my time during these years have been an effort to remove all risk.
When I say all risk I mean ALL risk which is associated with taking an aircraft into the air. As you may suspect, over close to thirty years I have had my share of incidents.

Some of those incidents have been minor close calls and others have been gut wrenching. Everything from the door opening on take-off on my first cross country solo in a C152, to heavy ice on the wings that the boots wouldn't clear on a ATR72, to smoke in the cockpit and engine failure of a B737.

Yes, checklists exist for all these situations. When you have gone through all of the checklists and its a wing, your past experience and a prayer..... You have to question your mortality and make your peace and believe God is looking over you, your family and your passengers.

Thanks, but that doesn´t answer any of my questions.

Yes, we've established where you are, now what are we in all that? You're eluding the main point of this whole discussion.

God is God. There is only one God. Just because you choose to say there are multiple gods doesn't mean they exist. Politheism is not a basis of denying the existance of one true God. Politheism is only the road humanity must travel to get to Him.

BTW you have not proven that God does not exist.

What makes you so sure that there´s only one god? IIRC Avon once said that the Jewish god is not the same as the Christian god. I know that some Christians say the same, they think that their God is the right one. Now tell me, who is right, who is wrong?

In my case, my question is (and it's not a joke) - how does one know that god is a 'he'?

(I mean that less in a gender sense and more in a being sense)

What makes you sure there is not one God?
Avon Lady can speak for herself and not rely on your recallections. Perhaps you are hearing what you want you hear. I have never heard anyone Jew or Christian make a distinction. God is God.

Most Christians believe in the holy trinity ("one god in three persons"). The Jewish and Muslims concepts of god are different, not only in that regard. For example, god gave 600-something commandments to Jews and only 10 to Christians...

Why are ships called 'she'. (I mean that less in a gender sense and more in a being sense).

Why can't God be something different for everyone. My perception of the Lord does not have to be the same as every other person who believes in God. It dosen't make anyone less in touch with God. Again you are using your finite terms and beliefs to interpret the un-interpretable. Try to stop difining God by our puny minds and language.

BTW No proof that God does not exist!!

There are only three possiblities.

1. There is only one god.

If that is true it would invalidate the polytheistic religions (more than 1 billion believers) and the Abrahamic religions would need to rethink some of their positions.

2. There are many gods.

This would shake the foundations of Abrahamic religions and some others, but not necessarly invalidate them.

3. There are no gods.

Well...

Since there is no definite answer people will continue to believe whatever they want. Many believe in one god, many in several gods, many in no gods at all. Impossible to say who´s right and who´s wrong.

This uncertainty, the total lack of definite answers, made me an atheist, for me it was the only logical conclusion.