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Jimbuna 11-04-19 06:56 AM

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MPs will elect John Bercow's successor as Speaker of the House of Commons later in the first election for the powerful post in more than a decade.

The Speaker keeps order in Commons debates and calls MPs to speak.

Chris Bryant - former minister and shadow Commons leader; Labour MP for Rhondda since 2001
Harriet Harman - former minister and deputy Labour leader; Labour MP since 1982, for Peckham and its successor constituency Camberwell
Meg Hillier - chairwoman of the Public Accounts Committee and former minister; Labour MP for Hackney South and Shoreditch since 2005
Sir Lindsay Hoyle - elected Labour MP for Chorley in 1997; elected deputy Speaker in 2010
Dame Eleanor Laing - elected Conservative MP for Epping Forest in 1997; elected deputy Speaker in 2013
Sir Edward Leigh - Conservative MP for Gainsborough since 1983; former chairman of the Public Accounts Committee
Dame Rosie Winterton - elected Labour MP for Doncaster Central in 1997; former Labour chief whip; elected deputy Speaker in 2017
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50283826
Five are Labour and two are Tory.

I'm thinking it will be between Harman and Hoyle (both Labour) but will add a Tory, Laing as a long shot.

STEED 11-04-19 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2635151)
UK stops fracking

Google translation from the 'Spiegel'

ELECTION STUNT NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS. :yep:

STEED 11-04-19 07:18 AM

Just looking at the big three leaders and I just have no faith in any of them, jim's post above covers the nameless one. Bojo has told lie after lie and his media side of him controls him more than his political side. As for Joe Swinson she clearly comes across lusting for power and if she gets in....:o

Out of that bad bunch I don't want any of them but I am going to get stuffed by one of them when the election results are in.

Jimbuna 11-04-19 09:54 AM

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Parties should not use the NHS as "a political weapon" in the election campaign, health service bosses say.

NHS Providers chief Chris Hopson said "over-dramatising NHS difficulties" or making "disingenuous" funding claims did the service "no favours".

Both the Tories and Labour are vowing to spend billions to improve care.

But Mr Hopson, who acts for health trust leaders in England, urged parties not to make "empty promises" or create "unrealistic expectations".

The long-term future of the NHS and social care is likely to be a key battleground in the run-up to the 12 December election.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50282333
Probably one of the most sensible things you'll read in the run up to the election.

mapuc 11-04-19 12:32 PM

Have a question on your election system

The last 5-10 years I have been witness to some of your Prime Minister saying
It's time for the British people pick a new PM and to put a new Parliament together.

Does this mean your PM and the Parliament can be in charge forever...until the PM decide it's time for the British people to.... ??

Markus

Jimbuna 11-04-19 01:02 PM

There must be an election every five years minimum.

mapuc 11-04-19 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2635334)
There must be an election every five years minimum.

Thank you

It's like here in Denmark, where the PM has the same right to put an election up and if s/he don't the election rules says every fourth year.

Markus

STEED 11-04-19 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2635306)
Probably one of the most sensible things you'll read in the run up to the election.

All sides will tell a load of BS and the NHS is the biggest BS political football. People say to me you must vote....Why should I vote for these party's who BS and lie to me. To hell with them all, try telling the truth and no BS and I may cast my vote but until then clear off.


Speaking of BS.....

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Jeremy Corbyn is urging voters to back him with a pledge to "get Brexit sorted" in six months if he becomes prime minister.
https://news.sky.com/story/general-e...ed-pm-11854419

Jimbuna 11-05-19 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2635350)
Thank you

It's like here in Denmark, where the PM has the same right to put an election up and if s/he don't the election rules says every fourth year.

Markus

The government can call an election earlier but it must be passed by a two thirds majority.

Jimbuna 11-05-19 06:24 AM

Sir Lindsay Hoyle was confirmed as the new Commons Speaker, succeeding John Bercow. Hoyle won the election after four rounds of voting eliminated the other six candidates.

https://i.postimg.cc/sgD2JG5s/109523053-hoyle.jpg

Good luck to the guy because he can't be any worse than his predecessor.

I found the whole election process quite entertaining, especially so as I was Face Timing my lad during it whilst he was watching it from his apartment in Jakarta.

STEED 11-05-19 06:55 AM

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The general election could be "a moment for seismic change", when "a new and different politics" emerges, Lib Dem leader Jo Swinson has said.

In a speech at the party's campaign launch, she said she could do "a better job" than either Boris Johnson or Jeremy Corbyn as prime minister.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50297164

What as, dictator. :hmmm:

Month after month she said put it to the people calling for a second reforendrum and then suddenly at the LibDems conferance stuff that we are going to tear up article 50 out right. So much for democracy....

Jimbuna 11-05-19 08:42 AM

Just in:

https://i.postimg.cc/Fssckm4J/Untitled.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/Z5Wdjc0b/Untitled2.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/FHwJ6LJj/Untitled3.jpg

STEED 11-05-19 09:13 AM

^Personally I would tell them to sod off and stop sending me this BS and lies. I suspect even after ticking the box I don't want to hear from you again these morons would still send emails out.

I really wonder why people vote these days, my conclusion they bought the lies and BS and the end result of that....NO HOPE OF THINGS GETTING BETTER.

In the world of soylent green I would be Sol.

Jimbuna 11-05-19 09:24 AM

Worthwhile for the entertainment value alone.

Jimbuna 11-05-19 09:49 AM

This is a must view.

https://www.facebook.com/austen.lenn...8049160697494/

Very well said Ian Austin MP for Dudley (Independent since February 2019 but formerly Labour)

MGR1 11-05-19 10:36 AM

My only observation about this GE is:

In England, Wales and Northern Ireland Brexit will dominate.

In Scotland it'll be independence with Brexit complicating things.

As the SNP have effectively replaced Labour up here it's a given that they will have the most seats. Exactly how many remains to be seen.

There's a truism in Scottish politics - the party that controls Glasgow and the Clyde Valley controls Scotland. If the other parties (apart from Labour, who have blown it) want to make inroads there, they need to make a serious study of why the Western Central Belt is the way it is and why it votes the way it does.

I suspect that for the Tories it'll be too challenging to their worldview for them to accept.

Mike.:hmmm:

Jimbuna 11-05-19 10:59 AM

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Former Chancellor Philip Hammond is to leave Parliament "with great sadness" after deciding against standing as an independent in his Surrey constituency.

Mr Hammond lost the Conservative whip in September after defying Boris Johnson over a no-deal Brexit.

As a result, he cannot stand as a Tory candidate in Runnymede and Weybridge, which he has represented since 1997.

He said he would not stand as an independent as that would be a "direct challenge" to the party he loved.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/50304679
I admire his stance but in all honesty I doubt he had any other alternative.

Skybird 11-05-19 11:56 AM

https://translate.google.de/translat...a-1294996.html

Jimbuna 11-05-19 12:12 PM

^This is how it's being reported here.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50300551

Skybird 11-05-19 02:03 PM

I am wondering how this would impact in the UK and the public's relation tot he Royals if the story is shown to be true!? In a sane society this should hold the potantial to destroy the function of the Royals as a national institution of uniting the people and closing gaps between different social andf political groups.


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50296742


If true, both the deed and the attempt to hide it and intimidate reporters, are crimes. How loyal would the population remain to the Royals after this story blowing up and shown as truth?


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