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Skybird 11-01-19 08:38 AM

So thought May, once.

Farage is picking away at Johnson's fundament. I do not know about the numerical ratio between no-deal- and Johnson-deal Brexiteers. If the firts come in higher numbers than expected and prevent johnosn th ewanted majority, the Johnson express could still derail while already entering the central station.

Jimbuna 11-01-19 09:05 AM

I think the election result is too hard to call/predict Sky. Most people make their predictions biased by their preferences but one thing is certain, we'll all know the result in the early hours of December thirteen.

Skybird 11-01-19 09:42 AM

I did not mean to "predict" an outcome, but to point out how uncertain things are: and that it could backfire indeed, that uncertain it maybe is. I find it hard to "preict" what impact Farage will have. The more votes he gets, the bigger Johnson's problem will become. Unfortunately he knows that. And it was not difficult to know in the first.

Jimbuna 11-01-19 09:57 AM

Whilst Brexit did well in the EU elections that is no indication of a similar result in the UK.

UKIP are a good example of the above.

STEED 11-01-19 10:11 AM

Hi guy...:haha: :haha:

Hang on... :haha: :haha:

:haha:

I got a LibDem leaflet though the door. :haha:

Quote:

Vote LibDems for a brighter better Britain
... :har: :har:

Oh man..:haha::har:

Jimbuna 11-01-19 11:14 AM

Precisely.

mapuc 11-01-19 12:42 PM

I hope Trump haven't destroyed any hope for a pro- Brexit party to win the election.

Heard on the news that Trump had, so to say, stepped into your ongoing election campaign

And Boris got furious

Seems Mr. Trump have no sense of understanding an another countries election and when to shut up and wait

Markus

Skybird 11-02-19 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2635039)
I hope Trump haven't destroyed any hope for a pro- Brexit party to win the election.

Most likely not. Its more about whether Johnson cna get a majpority sufficient to get his deal through, or whether Farrage ruins this, becasue farrage wants "no deal". If Farrage steals enigh votes form Johnson, then parliament once again ends in a deadlock. And this all starts from the starting line again.

Jimbuna 11-02-19 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2635087)
Most likely not. Its more about whether Johnson cna get a majpority sufficient to get his deal through, or whether Farrage ruins this, becasue farrage wants "no deal". If Farrage steals enigh votes form Johnson, then parliament once again ends in a deadlock. And this all starts from the starting line again.

Pretty much how it is looking atm :yep:

Jimbuna 11-02-19 06:01 AM

Quote:

John Bercow is demanding an apology from the Daily Mirror over claims he asked for £1m to appear on "I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here!"

The outgoing Commons Speaker has accused the paper of "publishing lies despite being advised of the truth" and has complained to the press watchdog.

The Mirror claimed talks between Mr Bercow and ITV broke down over the size of his appearance fee.

It said it stood by its story, which was based on "authoritative sources".

However, the newspaper also said it was "happy to accept" that Mr Bercow had "no serious desire to appear" on the programme.

Mr Bercow, who retired on Thursday after 10 years in the Speaker's chair, is understood to be furious about the story.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50265137
I think we're going to see a lot more about him in the press in the coming months.

STEED 11-02-19 07:05 AM

Quote:

Labour is promising to make all new-build homes "zero carbon" within three years, in an effort to curb housing shortages and tackle climate change.

A Labour government would introduce a "tough" standards for new builds which would see homes fitted with solar panels and not having gas boilers.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-50273350
Has Greta thunberg threaten Labour? :hmmm:

https://mriqd.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/bs-meter1.gif

Skybird 11-02-19 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2635091)
I think we're going to see a lot more about him in the press in the coming months.

I can understand that after having been on that show for one decade now he has no desire to extend this contract.



:O:

Jimbuna 11-02-19 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2635099)
I can understand that after having been on that show for one decade now he has no desire to extend this contract.



:O:

I've heard he is going to follow what Blair did and tour the world giving talks and speeches.

Jimbuna 11-02-19 10:08 AM

Looks like he wants some help writing his manifesto :haha:

https://i.postimg.cc/C1LDkW4d/Untitled.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/TYWbVjnj/Untitleda.jpg

Catfish 11-02-19 03:42 PM

UK stops fracking

Google translation from the 'Spiegel'

Jimbuna 11-03-19 07:19 AM

It looks like they are trying to cover as many bases as possible.

https://i.postimg.cc/L6v34GGC/Untitled.jpg

Jimbuna 11-03-19 08:57 AM

For anyone who questions why Jeremy Corbyn would be a dangerous Prime Minister? Here’s a list to start you off.

Not compiled by me but I am aware of a majority of the listing.

1)Invited two IRA members to parliament two weeks after the Brighton bombing.
2)Attended Bloody Sunday commemoration with bomber Brendan McKenna.
3)Attended meeting with Provisional IRA member Raymond McCartney.
4)Hosted IRA linked Mitchell McLaughlin in parliament.
5)Spoke alongside IRA terrorist Martina Anderson.
6)Attended Sinn Fein dinner with IRA bomber Gerry Kelly.
7)Chaired Irish republican event with IRA bomber Brendan MacFarlane.
8)Attended Bobby Sands commemoration honouring IRA terrorists.
9)Stood in minute’s silence for IRA gunmen shot dead by the SAS.
10)Refused to condemn the IRA in Sky News interview.
11)Refused to condemn the IRA on Question Time.
12)Refused to condemn IRA violence in BBC radio interview.
13)Signed EDM after IRA Poppy massacre massacre blaming Britain for the deaths.
14)Arrested while protesting in support of Brighton bomber’s co-defendants.
15)Lobbied government to improve visiting conditions for IRA killers.
16)Attended Irish republican event calling for armed conflict against Britain.
17)Hired suspected IRA man Ronan Bennett as a parliamentary assistant.
18)Hired another aide closely linked to several convicted IRA terrorists.
19)Heavily involved with IRA sympathising newspaper London Labour Briefing.
20)Put up £20,000 bail money for IRA terror suspect Roisin McAliskey.
21)Didn’t support IRA ceasefire.
22)Said Hamas and Hezbollah are his “friends“.
23)Called for Hamas to be removed from terror banned list.
24)Called Hamas “serious and hard-working“.
Attended wreath-laying at grave of Munich massacre terrorist.
25)Attended conference with Hamas and PFLP.
26)Photographed smiling with Hezbollah flag.
27)Attended rally with Hezbollah and Al-Muhajiroun.
28)Repeatedly shared platforms with PFLP plane hijacker.
29)Hired aide who praised Hamas’ “spirit of resistance“.
30)Accepted £20,000 for state TV channel of terror-sponsoring Iranian regime.
31)Opposed banning Britons from travelling to Syria to fight for ISIS.
32)Defended rights of fighters returning from Syria.
33)Said ISIS supporters should not be prosecuted.
34)Compared fighters returning from Syria to Nelson Mandela.
35)Said the death of Osama Bin Laden was a “tragedy“.
36)Wouldn’t sanction drone strike to kill ISIS leader.
37)Voted to allow ISIS fighters to return from Syria.
38)Opposed shoot to kill.
39)Attended event organised by terrorist sympathising IHRC.
40)Signed letter defending Lockerbie bombing suspects.
41)Wrote letter in support of conman accused of fundraising for ISIS.
42)Spoke of “friendship” with Mo Kozbar, who called for destruction of Israel.
43)Attended event with Abdullah Djaballah, who called for holy war against UK.
44)Called drone strikes against terrorists “obscene”.
45)Boasted about “opposing anti-terror legislation”.
46)Said laws banning jihadis from returning to Britain are “strange”.
47)Accepted £5,000 donation from terror supporter Ted Honderich.
48)Accepted £2,800 trip to Gaza from banned Islamist organisation Interpal.
49)Called Ibrahim Hewitt, extremist and chair of Interpal, a “very good friend”.
50)Accepted two more trips from the pro-Hamas group PRC.
51)Speaker at conference hosted by pro-Hamas group MEMO.
52)Met Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh several times.
53)Hosted meeting with Mousa Abu Maria of banned group Islamic Jihad.
54)Patron of Palestine Solidarity Campaign – marches attended by Hezbollah.
55)Compared Israel to ISIS, Hamas, Hezbollah and al-Qaeda.
56)Said we should not make “value judgements” about Britons who fight for ISIS.
57)Received endorsement from Hamas.
58)Attended event with Islamic extremist Suliman Gani.
59)Chaired Stop the War, who praised “internationalism and solidarity” of ISIS.
60)Praised Raed Salah, who was jailed for inciting violence in Israel.
61)Signed letter defending jihadist advocacy group Cage.
62)Met Dyab Jahjah, who praised the killing of British soldiers.
63)Shared platform with representative of extremist cleric Muqtada al-Sadr.
64)Compared ISIS to US military in interview on Russia Today.
65)Opposed proscription of Hizb UT-Tahrir.
66)Attended conference which called on Iraqis to kill British soldiers.
67)Attended Al-Quds Day demonstration in support of destruction of Israel.
68)Supported Hamas and ISIS-linked Viva Palestina group.
69)Attended protest with Islamic extremist Moazzam Begg.
70)Made the “case for Iran” at event hosted by Khomeinist group.
71)Photographed smiling with Azzam Tamimi, who backed suicide bombings.
72)Photographed with Abdel Atwan, who sympathised with attacks on US troops.
73)Said Hamas should “have tea with the Queen”.
74)Attended ‘Meet the Resistance’ event with Hezbollah MP Hussein El Haj.
75)Attended event with Haifa Zangana, who praised Palestinian “mujahideen”.
76)Defended the infamous anti-Semitic Hamas supporter Stephen Sizer.
77)Attended event with pro-Hamas and Hezbollah group Naturei Karta.
78)Backed Holocaust denying anti-Zionist extremist Paul Eisen.
79)Photographed with Abdul Raoof Al Shayeb, later jailed for terror offences.
80)Mocked “anti-terror hysteria” while opposing powers for security services.
81)Named on speakers list for conference with Hamas sympathiser Ismail Patel.
82)Criticised drone strike that killed Jihadi John.
83)Said the 7/7 bombers had been denied “hope and opportunity”.
84)Said 9/11 was “manipulated” to make it look like bin Laden was responsible.
85)Failed to unequivocally condemn the 9/11 attacks.
86)Called Columbian terror group M-19 “comrades”.
87)Blamed beheading of Alan Henning on Britain.
88)Gave speech in support of Gaddafi regime.
89)Signed EDM spinning for Slobodan Milosevic.
90)Blamed Tunisia terror attack on “austerity”.
91)Voted against banning support for the IRA.
92)Voted against the Prevention of Terrorism Act three times during the Troubles.
93)Voted against emergency counter-terror laws after 9/11.
94)Voted against stricter punishments for being a member of a terror group.
95)Voted against criminalising the encouragement of terrorism.
96)Voted against banning al-Qaeda.
97)Voted against outlawing the glorification of terror.
98)Voted against control orders.
99)Voted against increased funding for the security services.

Skybird 11-03-19 09:06 AM

Wowh... Impressive record...


I knew he was bad, but not that he was this much badderthanbad

Jimbuna 11-03-19 09:54 AM

We;;. if the above is accurate and true and I'm confident much of it is, I reckon that makes him a dangerous person who is seriously unfit to lead the UK.

JU_88 11-04-19 03:34 AM

Yeah slight Correction on putting that that Wealth and Power where it belongs, they mean:
from the few, to the even fewer (them selves) then trust they will do the right thing by the 'many' though their progressive/neo marxist lense where your level of oppression and need of equity can be more or less calulated by your race, gender identity, relegion and clinically unproven mental disorders, whether or not you were read bed time stories as a child etc
What could possibly go wrong? :hmmm:
At least if they won it would be entertaining to watch with some popcon (assuming I'm still able to buy some :P)
Honestly, I dont know really what to make of labor at this point.


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