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Skybird 10-29-19 09:49 AM

Ah, foreigners who live in the UK.


Oka,y those who have aquired dual citizenship and thus are uK citiezns: of course cna vote. The others: no, they are no UK citizens. Simple.


Of course they reject that it is so simple, we have the same debate in germany, I realise since you explained it. Still, why any foreigner staying in a foreign land shoud be allowed to interfere with this county's domestic policies, is completely beyond me. He stays there or works there, okay. But he is no citizen.



This is this continetal superstate nonsense thinking behind it.



Currently reading one of the two books by Douglas Murray. Not really new to me, but still: shocking.

Jimbuna 10-29-19 09:57 AM

Don't forget, Brits domiciled abroad were allowed to vote via postal routes.

What we will most likely see in the coming weeks and months (or until Parliament closes for the election) will be a series of discussions/arguments from all parties trying to get what they want via additional amendments.

Jimbuna 10-29-19 10:03 AM

Another one bites the dust and seeing how she won her seat as a Tory probably means the Tories will win it back at the election.

It's quite disgusting what she's been put through (read the full article) on a personal level and I wish her well for the future.

Quote:

MP Heidi Allen has announced she will not stand at the next election.

The member for South Cambridgeshire joined the Liberal Democrats earlier this month after quitting the Conservatives in February.

Ms Allen, 44, said she had suffered "utterly dehumanising" abuse and was "exhausted" by the "nastiness and intimidation" she had faced.

She was first elected in 2015 and announced her decision in a letter to her constituents. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-50223646

Jimbuna 10-29-19 10:07 AM

https://i.postimg.cc/fTbC4G7T/digging.gif

:har:

Skybird 10-29-19 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2634655)
What we will most likely see in the coming weeks and months (or until Parliament closes for the election) will be a series of discussions/arguments from all parties trying to get what they want via additional amendments.

There never is a FF-key when you want one.

Jimbuna 10-29-19 03:35 PM

Voting has just finished, we have a December 12th general election which imho as I said earlier "The election is a kind of proxy referendum"

Matters are nowhere near a conclusion but at least we are seeing progress in that direction.

Skybird 10-29-19 03:53 PM

In the old days, devices with an FF-key used to also have a Stop-key and an Eject-key [sigh]. I would want an extra-stiff spring for such an eject-mechanism today.

mapuc 10-29-19 04:21 PM

A vote on a party who are for a brexit wouldn't be enough

Not with all these law who prevent a hard brexit.

From what I understand, The Parliament have made it almost impossible for UK to leave.

Therefore I say as I have said before...give your politician a smack on their fingers.

Markus

Skybird 10-29-19 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2634689)
A vote on a party who are for a brexit wouldn't be enough

Not with all these law who prevent a hard brexit.

From what I understand, The Parliament have made it almost impossible for UK to leave.

For now. If pro-Brexiteers win the election with a majority that they cna no longe rbe outmanouvered in parliament, Johnson's deal will pass and Brexit will be announced "with a deal". However, the specfic details of the follow-on treaty to reuglate future rerlations between the UK and the block are so cmplex that they will take years, probaly - and then have a risk of failing. Which then would mean: practically a no deal Brexit, but a hard Brexit.



Thats why I said this first war is ending (about leaving now with the ability to already deal out new trade agreements with non-EU states), the next war is about to begin (about the specific conditions of the with-deal Brexit). These negotitaitosn will be so much mroe complex and difficult than what there was so far. What we ahd untuil here - was the easier part! :03: Still, the follow onnegotiaitons with the EU will be done from a status of "Brexit has been done" . So that if the negotiatiosn are declared to have faile din one or two or three years, this will automatically anings from a with-deal-Brexit into a no-deal-Brexit then.

STEED 10-29-19 06:10 PM

My sod off sign will be going up at the weekend, and they better sod off or its the bucket of cold water.


DO NOT VOTE FOR THESE USELESS SWINE. :yep:

STEED 10-30-19 06:34 AM

Are you voting?

Why?

Have you been following what has been going on, nothing more than a disgrace. All of them have acted like bad kids in a kinda garden and you want more feel free to vote these worthless over paid useless shower. Don't come crying to me when you ask why did i vote, nothing has changed.

Jimbuna 10-30-19 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2634698)
For now. If pro-Brexiteers win the election with a majority that they cna no longe rbe outmanouvered in parliament, Johnson's deal will pass and Brexit will be announced "with a deal".

That is the current belief as far as my understanding goes :yep:

Jimbuna 10-30-19 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEED (Post 2634745)
Are you voting?

Why?

Have you been following what has been going on, nothing more than a disgrace. All of them have acted like bad kids in a kinda garden and you want more feel free to vote these worthless over paid useless shower. Don't come crying to me when you ask why did i vote, nothing has changed.

Pseudo curmudgeon on tap.

STEED 10-30-19 06:38 AM

May's /Johnson's deal is not true brexit just remember that you hardline brexiteers. :03:

Jimbuna 10-30-19 07:24 AM

Quote:

Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn said the snap poll was a "once-in-a-generation" opportunity to transform the country.
Weren't similar quotes attributed to the Scottish Independence Referendum and Brexit? :hmmm:

Jimbuna 10-30-19 07:59 AM

Bang on cue, I should have expected these.

Two emails one after the other or perhaps they'd be better described as begging mails.

Here's the first split screen capture (too large for just the one), I'll post the other after I've been and checked the boys house.

https://i.postimg.cc/vTSLk5rQ/Untitled.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/RVNTfbmq/Untitleda.jpg

Jimbuna 10-30-19 10:30 AM

Now the other.

https://i.postimg.cc/rssTYKM6/Untitledb.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/KY5yGnYS/Untitledc.jpg

Jimbuna 10-30-19 10:37 AM

Which MPs are standing down at the election?

I was quite surprised at some of those on the list.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49607907

mapuc 10-30-19 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2634746)
That is the current belief as far as my understanding goes :yep:

Heard on the radio today where some expert on British politics said something with

If Boris and the Tories win we can expect UK have left EU by 1 January 2020.

If the others, he mentioned the Lib and I was thinking Corbyn..win the election it is most likely UK will remain a EU member.

I therefore change my advise

If you are for leaving EU-then put your vote on B.J. (Yes you may not like him..but ask yourself what's most important leave EU and have Boris as PM for the next couple of years or Stay in EU with Steptoe as PM)

Markus

Skybird 10-30-19 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2634653)
Currently reading one of the two books by Douglas Murray. Not really new to me, but still: shocking.

Just found this on it. I plan to get the first book later on. Its pleasant to read not due to what he says, but how he says it. Shows style and class.

https://translate.google.de/translat...chen-Welt.html


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