Could he be fishing for a second referendum and until this happens if it does...uphold(not the correct word) the Parliament as long he can do it...meaning do anything to prevent a brexit

Markus

Jean-Claude Juncker accuses Boris Johnson of spreading 'lies' during Leave campaign.

I'm not saying I disagree with him but the timing of this announcement is a little questionable.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brexi...id=mailsignout

Jpohnson is a notorious liar, it seems, all life long, so to speak. That is no question, but known sinc elong. Question is why so many voters beoleived him nevertheless? Question also is whether this can be an excuse to rig laws and rules and to repeat as often as wanted, since lying is integral part of politics and every career politician tries to bribe his voters with fairy tales and debt-raising "presents" (that the gifted in the end have to pay for, and with interest).


Its time to replace the voters and get a more educated and competent electorate.

That is easier said than done because peoples beliefs have been ingrained since birth.

Which pretty much sums up why I am against a general right to vote, since a couple of years. I demand that political and voting decisons are not made due to "habit", or "belief" of "family tradition"".I would rather prefer to flip a coin, like it was tried in ancient Greece at times. Not that it workd that much better, where there is a will to corrupt a system, it will be done. When you want to vote, two conditions must be filfilled: you must have more own contributions to the system/community in the fire than you have net benefits, and you must have the reason and competence and a sense of responsibility that is able and willing to look beyond yourself. in other words, this modern idea of democracy with its holy status for elections has the same flaw like socialism/Marxism: it bases on a totally illusional, unrealistic idea of man. We are not like this. And that is why both system do not work as advertised. They adress the wrong species.


Meanwhile a survey that shows how toxic the climate in Britain seems to have become:


https://www.cardiff.ac.uk/news/view/...-and-the-union

The only way Bojo is going to get his election is to take "no deal" off the table or to put it another way call Labour's bluff. As for myself I will not be voting because of many issues.

Those stats and in particular the ones referring to violence are really quite shocking!!

Only for a British gentleman. :D

I am not surprised that much, I admit. I expect some comarable effect for America as well. We have had comparing statements about eco fascists in Germany as well.

The polarization is advancing everywhere, on all levels, I would say. The media culture of the present fosters the development.

Politician's fart around while the smouldering embers start fires. :nope:

Certainly can't be referring to me, I've been on the receiving end of such violence and believe you me, it wasn't very nice :03:

EU ambassadors have agreed to delay Brexit, but will not make a decision on a new deadline date until next week.

OT: I was threatened with death one time and called it in only to be told, "Sorry sir we can't do anything about threats, but if he does do something be sure to call us back" :o

I'd have thought making death threats would have been a crime :hmmm:

So far the French stay adamant and do not want a long extension. Mid-Novembre at max, one heard. The EU decision on Friday on a specific term was delayed due to the French, they agreed only to the principle delay, but not the length others wanted. From the French government one hears that they have strong doubts on what an extension will positively acchieve, and what it should be used for. Just wanted or just planned elections, it was said, is not enough to justify an extrension - they will consider extension for elections only when these elections are sure and certain and have agreed on by all relevant powers in British politics, must not yet be agreed on in the future.



If they stick to this line next week, Corbyn has a big problem that he maybe did not expect.

I have a lot of sympathy for England, or make that the UK.
I still think that keeping up the EU would be better for everyone, but since the elder folks in England defeated the young and decided their future.. with your special relationship to Trump:
Do what you think you must, but please stop wasting everybody's time.

It's almost Christmas and we all know what our kids wish for Christmas

Markus

I was going to say that if British gentlemen all owned Lee-Enfields there would be less farting around, but the democrats are farting around in the USA and the opposition is armed for bear. :03:

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