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mapuc 07-22-24 06:14 PM

Thank you Rockstar

So you could say the Dems are in their midlife crisis

Markus

Rockstar 07-22-24 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2919005)
Thank you Rockstar

So you could say the Dems are in their midlife crisis

Markus

I don’t know about it being a mid life crisis but they sure as hell screwed themselves and this country up for awhile now.

I certainly hope you read the entire article because I think she hit the nail on the head.

The important takeaway from Biden’s withdrawal is that the entire establishment lied. They lied to us about Biden’s health, they kept lying, and many of them lied until the very last moment. Each group — the White House, the press, the politicians, and the liberal base — played the game, punishing anyone who dared step out of line. They held fast to the lie they had told, I suspect, because they knew the lie implicated them as well. It would be one matter if the debate was the first rupture in the Biden team’s narrative, but it wasn’t. Everyone outside the liberal bubble knew that Biden had experienced a sharp mental and physical decline since the start of his Presidency, the only question most people had was “how much?” - AYAAN HIRSI ALI

August 07-22-24 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid (Post 2918999)
Fair enough but be prepared to be surprised.


Surprised like you were that not only did Trump show up to the debate when you claimed that he would not dare to, that your boy Biden would stumble so badly for all the world to see, confirming what people have been saying about him ever since he took office?

mapuc 07-22-24 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 2919007)
I don’t know about it being a mid life crisis but they sure as hell screwed themselves and this country up for awhile now.

I certainly hope you read the entire article because I think she hit the nail on the head.


Only a few lines here and there and there and the entire first, second and third paragraph

Going to be interesting to follow them closely, here in our US-politics and on CNN, Sky News and other foreign news provider.

Reply to your editing
it made me recall Emperor's new cloth.

Markus

Onkel Neal 07-22-24 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid (Post 2918999)
Fair enough but be prepared to be surprised.

If you're referring to being surprised by Harris winning the election, i won't be totally surprised, She's a better candidate than biden.

em2nought 07-23-24 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal (Post 2919013)
If you're referring to being surprised by Harris winning the election, i won't be totally surprised, She's a better candidate than biden.

I guess she won't get blamed for being the border czar since she never really even showed up for the job. :har:

In that same vein, and because she's now secretly the darling of the left, this chick might be a good choice as VP. It's even apropos that she has the word "cheat" in her name. :D

https://external-content.duckduckgo....4a8&ipo=images

Jimbuna 07-23-24 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal (Post 2919013)
If you're referring to being surprised by Harris winning the election, i won't be totally surprised, She's a better candidate than biden.

Most definitely :yep:

Skybird 07-23-24 05:13 AM

Media report Harris has collected enough Democrats' support to fetch the nomination for sure.

I make no predictions on this election then.

With Biden I was sure at the end that Trump would gain a landslide win. With Harris, I have no clue. She is not popular in the population, but many people will weigh between what they perceive as two evils. Which is the lesser one, who will do better with the economy? Harris is said to be quite lefty and opportunistically leaning towards the climate policy camp. Thats two biggies that may keep many people away. She also has sued the oil industry as state attorney. As vice president she was practically non-existent, Biden did not gave her any responsibilities that would have given her opportunity to form a profile. Hard for me to tell whether that was lack of opportunity or lack of ability. We will see, now that she must go on the offensive. To me she behaves too much like a streamlined media star from a TV series, but then, most politicians in the US seem to be like that. Not my mug of coffee.

Harris has two advantages however where she outskills both Trump and Biden: Climbing stairs and speaking fluently in complete sentences.:D


If Trump looses in Novembre, I see realistic risks for what would follow then. From riots and violence, even armed riots in the streets, to endless legal and formal straddles from the Trumpists. Heck there are more firearms in the US than there are people. In my book Trump has behaved as and motivated for calling his mobs to storm the capitol. I give not even garbage for what the - biased - court says. People died. He lies about the last election until today. People beleive his lies until today. He transfigured himself into a pseudo-religious figure, a messiah, posed as saint. People were moved to tears in their inner hearts, we saw the pictures form the convention's audience. As a psychologist and a perosn ingerested in history lessons, all my alarm bells are ringing when seeing this kind of mass behaviour. This is an utmost toxic mix of mass psychology, and in case of loosing the election: hurt narcissism, feelings of betrayed hopes and the crash of self-definition attempts by linking oneself to a shining messiah's fate. This all could explode, like we often have seen in sectarian movements before, ending in violence and tragedy. The parrallels to the psychological mechanisms in sects are obvious for me. And then there are already subtle implications made that Trump also calculates with a formula of "better you vote for me, else this place will go up in flames if you hurt me". He has nothing to loose.

Onkel Neal 07-23-24 06:18 AM

From Kyle Becker on X
https://x.com/kylenabecker/status/1815592073145495913

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Think about this: Trump almost gets assassinated.

Days later, Biden has a medical emergency in Vegas requiring "self isolation" at home.

Last public appearance reported to be July 17, when deboarding a plane in Delaware.

In the time since: Trump shows up at the RNC, accepts the GOP nomination.

Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Hakeem Jeffries ramp up pressure campaign to push Biden out.

Leaks abound. WaPo reports Obama not happy with Biden's election chances.

Pelosi starts operation: "Get Joe Out, the Hard Way."

Biden aides Ricchetti, Donilon execute plan to push him out.

Hunter, Jill reportedly have a screaming fest.

A resignation letter with a suspect, digital signature with no official letterhead is issued on X.

White House staff is blindsided. Chief of Staff informs Cabinet, takes over comms.

Endorsements begin: Hillary. Bill. Newsom.

Finally, Obama speaks out: "Joe Biden has been one of America's most consequential presidents..."

Kamala shows up to take over.

Family members Frank and Valerie Biden say that 'health was a factor.'

FEC filings changed. Donations transferred over to her campaign.

Kamala somehow raises $81 million in 24 hours. $81 MILLION.

Kamala reportedly gets the delegates to be the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee.

Joe Biden hasn't been seen in public *the whole time.*

How is this not a COUP?

Have to admit, this is way past crazy. Surpasses the Bush/Gore mess by a mile. Future historians are going to make a career on this.

Also:
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"We do not have radio communications from that day."

Secret Service Director Kim Cheatle claims that the agency did not keep *ANY* audio recordings from the Trump assassination attempt.

The Secret Service cover-up is *CONFIRMED.*
If true, that's just crazy as hell. No radio comms were saved? Do they usually have recorded radio comms, and they are saved, just not this time??

Something is wrong here...

Onkel Neal 07-23-24 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2919030)
Media report Harris has collected enough Democrats' support to fetch the nomination for sure.

I make no predictions on this election then.



Harris has two advantages however where she outskills both Trump and Biden: Climbing stairs and speaking fluently in complete sentences.:D

I wouldn't get carried away with her rhetorical skills, she has her own set of speaking handicaps.:O: Between her and Trump, it's gonna be painful to listen to them.


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If Trump looses in Novembre, I see realistic risks for what would follow then. He has nothing to loose.


"Loses", man, not "looses". Lose, not loose.

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From riots and violence, even armed riots in the streets, to endless legal and formal straddles from the Trumpists. Heck there are more firearms in the US than there are people. In my book Trump has behaved as and motivated for calling his mobs to storm the capitol. I give not even garbage for what the - biased - court says. People died. He lies about the last election until today. People beleive his lies until today. He transfigured himself into a pseudo-religious figure, a messiah, posed as saint. People were moved to tears in their inner hearts, we saw the pictures form the convention's audience. As a psychologist and a perosn ingerested in history lessons, all my alarm bells are ringing when seeing this kind of mass behaviour. This is an utmost toxic mix of mass psychology, and in case of loosing the election: hurt narcissism, feelings of betrayed hopes and the crash of self-definition attempts by linking oneself to a shining messiah's fate. This all could explode, like we often have seen in sectarian movements before, ending in violence and tragedy. The parrallels to the psychological mechanisms in sects are obvious for me. And then there are already subtle implications made that Trump also calculates with a formula of "better you vote for me, else this place will go up in flames if you hurt me".
It's a very real danger, people are getting fed up with the massive fraud, deception, and corruption in the govt. Rising up is the obligatory response. We've been fed lies by the current administration for 3 years, "Joe is sharp, he's focused, he's a dynamic thinker and decisive leader", when we could see that was bs. Then in a matter of days it was "Time to step down, Joe".

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He lies about the last election until today. People beleive his lies until today.
Not accurate, he isn't lying, he is voicing his opinion. He contends there was tinkering with the election and the result. I have not seen any proof that he is right but I also have seen zero proof the election was legitimate. When I think of all the gaslighting and fake allegations -- "Russiagate, insurrection, collusion, sham criminal trials, etc" that Trumpo has had to endure, I am not ruling out the election was rigged. I'm not saying I know it was, but these days that doesn't seem impossible.

We were told the laptop was fake. It wasn't. We were told we cannot talk about the origins of Covid, it was a fish market. Not true. And now with this crazy assassination attempt and the Secret Service coverup... maybe the election was rigged.

Skybird 07-23-24 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal (Post 2919037)
From Kyle Becker on X
https://x.com/kylenabecker/status/1815592073145495913

Have to admit, this is way past crazy. Surpasses the Bush/Gore mess by a mile. Future historians are going to make a career on this.

Also:

If true, that's just crazy as hell. No radio comms were saved? Do they usually have recorded radio comms, and they are saved, just not this time??

Something is wrong here...

Roman Praetorians coming to mind... :o

mapuc 07-23-24 09:45 AM

Reading the latest comment here made me think of Shakespeare and following line from Hamlet

"Something is rotten in the state of Denmark(translated to=Something is rotten in the United States of America)

Markus

Shadowblade 07-23-24 10:00 AM

https://i.ibb.co/jwg8gLw/byeden-33.jpg

Rockstar 07-23-24 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal (Post 2919037)


If true, that's just crazy as hell. No radio comms were saved? Do they usually have recorded radio comms, and they are saved, just not this time??

Something is wrong here...


I was part of a seaside security detail for President Bush and given a radio that was somehow tied into Secret Service network to pass along any potential problems we encountered. The damn thing didn't work, we called our base on vhf working channel to let them know and they couldn’t get in touch with anyone to see about correcting the problem. We sat out there all night, all we had to notify someone of a threat was if we lit them up with our M60s. :arrgh!:

During counter narcotic ops some higher up out of area up nit wit wanted position checks every 15 minute. Radio comms worked great! Yet us D7 grunts knew full well the bad guys had our frequencies because it’s public knowledge and even though our voice comms were encrypted they could still DF the signal with the dozens of towers they operated around the islands.

Then there was joint ops with Customs. They had Satcom all we had was HF radio so once we departed the dock we couldn’t speak or coordinate intercepts with one another.

There’s always something wrong with government operations. Especially Inter-agency comms and cooperation is usually a mess.

em2nought 07-23-24 11:40 AM

If Tom Clancy was still around he could make an awesome book from all of this.

Maybe we should start a gofundme to buy the secret service some whistles? :har:


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