After the Scottish court, the High Court in London now also has refused to play the political ballgame of the no-no-deal faction.

It is not over yet though, the High Court have given permission for an appeal.

Labour and other UK opposition parties agree not to back PM’s demand for general election before October EU summit.

What is the legal situation right now? Its my understanding that since quite some time the legal situation is such that if no deal gets signed until Octobre 31st, automatically a Brexit gets triggered. The no-no-deal law of two days ago however must collide with this in any way (I admit I have no read anywhere what it really says in detail). So what is the legal situation if Johnson simply refuses to obey the law and choses not to go to Brussels and asking for another delay? How could he be held responisble for this what obviously formally would be a law violation then - or is it not? And would the consequence sof such behaviour - Brexit activated, that is - be legally sustainable?

And since nothing is to be expected to happen until end of January, wouldn't they then demand another delay being asked for? And endlessly on and on and on this way?

Its all a break-or-get-broken situation. Compromise impossible.


If Johnson simply refuses to do anything, even stops governing" in any way. No asking in brussel. No complaince with the little marxist's demands. No pushing of elections. Instead: Nothing. Just sitti g in No 10, doing nothing, letting days pass. What then, from MP's POV...?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fLO7MpHO2w
You may be interested in this discussion by UKIP dude for pro-BREXIT point of view.

I'm not sure anyone really knows but if it is humanly possible to get the UK out Boris is the only one willing to do it.

UKIP is a dead duck their day is long over and will have no effect on the possible general election.

Bojo will have another crack at it on Monday but his odds are worst than a exploding gas pipe. Shutting down Parliament has backfired big time on him, serve him right taking advice from a psychopath.

Is he? I am not as convinced as you seem to be. He was overrolled by the passing referendum almost three years ago, he did not really wanted it to be successful, he wanted only to gain profile by posing as a Brexiteer and a critic of remainers.



And certainly he knows how badly prepared Britian now is after the lots of wasted time. He also certainly knows that by the letters and laws and paragraphs he has ZERO chance now - at least I see none - to get elections before having gone to Brussels.



He also most certainly knew in advance that he would loose on Tuesaday and Wednesday. He must have seen all that coming.
Finally, he is a career politician, and a very power-craving one. And a gambler he is anyway.



I think the very last sentence in the very last paragraphs, the line at the very end of it all, indicates what is that is to be looked out for.


https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49612757


May wanted to reach a pseudo-Brexit so that the political class would not get lynched by the plebs when not delivering Brexit by meaning and content - she wanted the parliament to steal the Brexit referendum and getting away with it by actinbg as if Brexit had been dleivered. Johnson on the other hand I think also plans to not deliver Brexit now - but he is satisfied with just himself not being lynched, instead winning the next elections after that and being the old new PM again. And the blame beeing loaded all on Labour.


I will be happy if the future events proves me to be wrong and Brexit comes, but I doubt it. I fear I will be right. Johnson'S goals now are no real Brexit, Labour being blamed by the voter, winning the elections, and himself staying as PM.

T. Brex has no plan, and he is still lying as three years ago. But.. he adopted a dog.

Oh, a plan he has, I am certain. The question is whether it works as intended.

I said it before and I will say it again Bojo is not PM material he is a media hyped junkie. Just look at that joke with him banging on and poor police cadets/officers dropping, they were used and now the police chief feels that.

Bojo likes playing up to the camera even if he looks like a twit, and taking advice from psycho dominic is a big mistake.

Bojo has a third option where he calls a vote of no confidence in his government and gets his MP's to abstain but I can not see that one.

Boris is the only one making the right noises that is for sure but one can only hope the noises he makes are truthful.

The person responsible in my opinion is Theresa May. All this could and should have been prevented by negotiating something better than what can only be described as a 'surrender document'.

After all wasn't it she who said "No deal is better than a bad deal".

Always expect the unexpected when Boris is about.

Johnson triggering a vote of confidence still leaves him at the mercy of the opposition to get properly kicked. Which they will refuse to do. So it is not an option in the meaning of that he has control over it and can enforce it.

The onyl thing he can enforce is ignroing the non-no-deal-law, and the legal actions this necessarily would cause. In all other regards he now is totally and competely helpless and incapable of anything, it seems to me.

Parliament never wanted the Brexit referendum. Parliament never wanted to obey the referendum's outcome. And it seems it will get its will as long as the legal action against Johnson if he ignores the law is without consequences.

It all will cost more time, but I started to think these days that the real action is over and the rest is just show (if it ever was anything more thna just show anyway). Both Corbyn and Johnson now already are focussed on securing No 10 for themselves in the next year. Brexit is most likely already dead.

Lame duck sighted in Londown.

The trade deal with the uS, likely is another gambit only. The Donald will abuse the British dependency to get a deal quickly by dictating terms and conditions to them., Special relationship is all nice and well, but in the end its money that talks, and the US abused Britain already in 2003 and told sweet promises about economic revenues that never materialised.

The British stand was torpedoes by treason and traiotrs from beginning on, first Johnson'S campaign lies, then May's treason. Britain started way to late to play the game the hard way and started to realise too late that it needed to prepare for a time of hardship after a Brexit, and there is still a lack of awareness that Brexit with a really sovereignty-implementing "exit" in it can only be had by a no-deal leave from beginning on. Three profound mistakes, each of them in itself already decisive enough to decide the match, but in combination: being guaranteed irresistably.

I call like summin thigns up already and giving a final conclusion. But I indeed think Brexit is over. They will waste more time to lament and to accuse and to point fingers, but I see nothing that Johnson can do by his own options anymore to enforce it.


I fear after the US the UK now will become the second heavyweight where the civil society gets deeply split and increasingly polarised, and conflicts widening gaps and trenches.

I'm wondering if and when somebody will grow a pair and suggest revoking Article 50 :hmmm:

^No, because this somebody then would be accused of having ignored and stolen the referendum. What they are trying since three years - all of them - is to weasel around Brexit by staging just a meaningless fake-Brexit that is no real exit, so that they could get away with having betrayed the Brexit referendum majority by formally claiming that "Brexit got delivered".

The UK is going down hill fast, possible recession on the way and this Brexit mess goes on. I for one want this to end now today and if it means staying put in the EU I can live with that. I'm more interested in the domestic front than this on going BS. This BS has given those pigs at Westminster the excuse they have been looking for to get out of the real domestic work and fart around with this BS yes BS.

Cameron should never ever called the referendum knowing what those pigs would get up to.

Prison eh? :hmmm: