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Skybird 06-28-24 05:05 AM

Saw just some lowlights.
Trump bumbled his way through the show like a moose on the way to mating, brutally, stupidly, without style, getting personal and offending, and he simply didn't answer questions he didn't like. Biden is simply no longer in control of himself, clearly senile, senile, with brain failures.
That one of these two remains or becomes master of war and peace is deeply upsetting and shows the depth of the damage already done to the American political system. How dare parties that presume to still maintain the lie that they are concerned with the national common good and security put up such disastrous candidates? And that goes for both parties.

The losers of the next election have already been determined: all Americans who are not among the richest of the rich. And you now what? If you vote for any of these two, you do not deserve it any better.

Democracy never was as ideal as the ideal paints it. But in the present time, may it be in the US or in the EU, it is clearly under assassination attempt. And the murderers are those who get legitimated by the stupid plebs to defend it. No wonder that Western civilization is in free fall everywhere.

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I would not be surprised if the Democrats panic now and try to change their parachute while they already jumped out of the door of the airplane. With this Biden, they must not even care to go to the elections.

Jimbuna 06-28-24 05:05 AM

A few clips but if the rest is like this then Biden doesn't look too compos mentis to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq0G1TMCw4Y

Skybird 06-28-24 05:14 AM

The moderation seems to have been a desaster, too, a total failure. Trump told lies several times, wrong claims should have been corrected, not left echoing on through the air, leaving their footprints in people's memory. The moderators did not do that. Its already bad if it is due to their political bias. But if they did not even perceive it and their audience did no protest, too, then it really is all hopeless, and it proves once again the psychological truth that every lie is believed in the end if it is repeated often and long and loud enough. Volume rules over reasons, stupid.

mapuc 06-28-24 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2916121)
Have yet to see it myself but that is also my understanding re Biden.

Found this on YT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqG96G8YdcE

Markus

Jimbuna 06-28-24 05:36 AM

That's the link I intend watching after I've taken the boss shopping Markus :up:

mapuc 06-28-24 06:01 AM

Which top politicians among the Dems is the best choice to replace Biden ?

The Vice President ?

Markus

em2nought 06-28-24 06:50 AM

No matter how somebody tries to spin it, this is the result from last night. :har:

https://cdn10.bigcommerce.com/s-dcvf...0.2000.jpg?c=2

Reece 06-28-24 07:35 AM

Even Putin is clapping!! :har::har:

Bilge_Rat 06-28-24 07:47 AM

I watched the debate.

I actually don’t think it was that bad for Biden. Yes, he looks old and a bit confused, but he is not seline and could usually get his point accross.

Trump was his usual bullying, “used car salesman” self, but more disciplined than usual. He stayed on message and managed to pivot away from hard questions, like on January 6th, his legal problems, etc. quite adeptly.

But yes, Trump won the debate and quite possibly the election last night.

Onkel Neal 06-28-24 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid (Post 2916089)
Trump would trash the US economy which would make a huge difference. Sixteen Nobel winning economists say so and none of the Fortune 100 CEO’s are backing Trump.

Seriously, that's not how I see it. My pension is fixed. It won't change. But under your President, inflation -- which was entirely avoidable AND predictable after the massive relief spending under Biden -- has effectively reduced my income 20% over the last 3 years.

I'll take my chances with Trump on the economy.

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2916126)
The moderation seems to have been a disaster, too, a total failure. Trump told lies several times, wrong claims should have been corrected, not left echoing on through the air, leaving their footprints in people's memory. The moderators did not do that. Its already bad if it is due to their political bias. But if they did not even perceive it and their audience did no protest, too, then it really is all hopeless, and it proves once again the psychological truth that every lie is believed in the end if it is repeated often and long and loud enough. Volume rules over reasons, stupid.

The moderators are CNN hacks, they cannot be fact checkers. I will agree they should have focused follow up questions on his wild lies, and pressed him over it. But I don't see them in a position to argue with him over it.



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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal (Post 2913514)
Good summary. It makes Nov 7 even more interesting. I am betting the Dems pull Biden if the polls don't reflect him leading.

Man, at the end, I was watching to see if Biden could blink. His eyes were locked. Poor basterd has no business in this race and I'm sure the Dems will retire him in the convention.

Trump has really lost a step too. His discourse was on autoplay, the biggest this, the greatest that, the worst this, in the history of the country! He said a lot of nonsense but Biden's corpse-like performance made him look Churchillian by comparison. He had so many opportunities to elevate himself but as usual, came across like some guy's crazy old uncle.

Can you imagine how this debate would have played if Desantis or Haley were up there? Stupid Republicans. :wah:

mapuc 06-28-24 09:18 AM

It was the Democrats who wanted this debate-Now I wonder if they aren't regretting it.

Sadly the Americans has only two candidate, one who seems senile and one who seems to be lying. Maybe it's time for the American to look after a third candidate.

FYI
Our politicians is a joke too

Markus

Moonlight 06-28-24 10:10 AM

Good Grief!, these 2 politicians are not fit to be the President of the USA, out of the 2 of them I'd go for Donald Trump all day long, and that begs the question, who have the Democrats and the Republicans got waiting in the wings to take their places if something happens to these guys?.

I have another question, could Michelle Obama be nominated as a Presidential Candidate?, it doesn't matter if she says she doesn't want the job, I want to know if she can become President, Yes or No.

It wouldn't be Michelle running the country though, it would be the husband who was pulling all the strings, but, there'll be plenty of Presidential experience in the background for Michelle and, I don't see that as an option for anyone else.

She seems to have put some weight on, would that be a problem for her?, it wont be a good look for her looking like she's been living high on the hog while people are potentially going hungry.

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August 06-28-24 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Moonlight (Post 2916160)
could Michelle Obama be nominated as a Presidential Candidate?, it doesn't matter if she says she doesn't want the job, I want to know if she can become President, Yes or No.


Yes but it would require Biden voluntarily step down and release his delegates to vote for her. If the Dems can't talk Joe into doing that he will be their nominee.

mapuc 06-28-24 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 2916161)
Yes but it would require Biden voluntarily step down and release his delegates to vote for her. If the Dems can't talk Joe into doing that he will be their nominee.

I know there's an Amendment in which the government can remove a sitting President if they don't see this person fit for office. However it can't be done without the Vice Presidents agreement.

Edit
No he can't be removed there's nothing in the text "The U.S. Constitution says the president can be removed from office by Congress for “treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanours" mention senile or other psychological problems.
End edit

Markus

Moonlight 06-28-24 11:33 AM

I'll just let you know that I asked this question to my other 49 neighbours and the majority of them would like to give her one, a nomination that is. :O: As a former landowner of the USA we should be allowed to participate in these elections, Christ, even we can't **** up as much as you have done over the years. :haha:


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