Aha, I see you've spotted the master stroke in my plan! If we keep this up long enough this time next year we'll be millionaires! :03:

As Del-boy would put it:
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None of these shenanigans will be necessary if my plan comes to fruition. Still, If they do occur, you can always come to me to be absolved of your sins (as well as receiving treatment for injuries so caused).

With me along, we won't have to resort to that. First, we 'borrow' an airplane, then we can go from there. I've got 247 hours logged behind a double-engine Cessna, so if we 'take' the Memphis Belle 'on a maintnence run' to Europe and all over the states, there's only a 63.58309% chance of us going down.

Unless Aktung replaces the dual-fifties in the turrets and Budda and Wolferz shoot the tail off.

My aim is always good when shooting tail. :stare:

I may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I count 4 engines on the Belle. What are you going to do? Not start two of them?

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^YOU'RE lookin' at it all wrong! "Yet, because of the B-17s sturdy and stout design, its crews (including two still living uncles-ages 93!) trusted their aircraft believing that their 'Forts' wouldn't let them down. B-17s returned to England daily with their noses blown open, tails gashed and wings riddled with flack damage. Often they touched down with one or two oil-streaked engines stone cold, with the remaining engines moaning under the strain.":D http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/aircraf.../weird-B17.jpgNaturally the honor your enemies pay you counts more:salute:"During World War II, after crash-landing or being forced down, approximately 40 B-17s were captured and refurbished, with about a dozen put back into the air. Given German national markings on their wings and fuselage sides, and tail fin-flashes, the captured B-17s were used to determine the B-17's vulnerabilities and to train German interceptor pilots in attack tactics.Others, with the cover designations Dornier Do 200 and Do 288, were used as long-range transports by the Kampfgeschwader 200 special duties unit, carrying out agent drops and supplying secret airstrips in the Middle East and North Africa. They were chosen specifically for these missions as being more suitable for this role than other available German aircraft; they never attempted to deceive the Allies and always wore full Luftwaffe markings One B-17 of KG200, bearing the Luftwaffe's KG 200 Geschwaderkennung (combat wing code) markings A3+FB, was interned by Spain when it landed at Valencia airfield, 27 June 1944, remaining there for the rest of the war It has been alleged that some B-17s kept their Allied markings and were used by the Luftwaffe in attempts to infiltrate B-17 bombing formations and report on their positions and altitudes. According to these allegations, the practice was initially successful, but Army Air Force combat aircrews quickly developed and established standard procedures to first warn off, and then fire upon any "stranger" trying to join a group's formation. pics or it didn't happen:doh: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi.../B17_kg200.jpg

I COULD do that. But it can't be that hard to start another two engines. If it comes down to it, I'll teach the copilot the wonders of aerial engine maintnence.

Speaking of which, I need a good crew. All may apply for one of the following:
Copilot, navigator, bombadier (for ending problems the Bilge may have), gunners, and flight attendant. We must have our in-flight prime rib and champagne.

We could parachute into Alabama all dressed as Santa, lights on us, etc..Kapt. could then land the plane, if he don't make it....we'll figure it out...

We do need some toys for the kids and the only toys in the bilge..., well, those won't work.

Now we just gotta "borrow" a plane....

You know, in the time I've been a Rat, there's one question I've never gotten to ask. Where the hell are we docked?

Good question. I believe I was drugged and just woke up here.

Starting isn't the problem.
Your Cessna twin engine is on tricycle landing gear. Real easy to taxi, take off and land. The B-17 is a 'tail dragger'. A whole new world will open up for you when you try to get one of those flying buses into the air. Landing is a whole 'nother story. Just because you might be able to do it on a 'puter, don't mean squat in the real world, but you are welcome to try. I will stay in the hanger and watch.

I was stoned and I missed it.

If you don't know where you are.
 

Look outside.
Always remember...
No matter where you go, there you are.:D

I think this building is labeled "Hangar 18"

We're going flying?
Great!
Lemme break out my old copy of B-17 Flying Fortress The Mighty Eighth for a refresher course on flying one of those birds. They even programmed the full engine starting procedures and the Nordstrom Bomb Sight.:yeah:

They sell those??? :o :O:

INDEED! $8995 +$60 shipping with case!:D :O: http://www.craiggottlieb.com/catalog/primary/4642p.jpghowever: A member of the German Duquesne Spy Ring, Herman W. Lang, who had been employed by the Carl L. Norden Corporation, (manufacturers of the Norden bombsight) was able to provide vital details of the new bombsight to the Germans. During a visit to Germany in 1938, Lang reconstructed plans from memory.
The Norden consisted of two primary parts, the optical system, and a large stabilization platform. Both were complex and had to be separately maintained to keep them operational.
In comparison the Lotfe 7 was dramatically simpler, consisting of a single metal box containing the vast majority of the mechanism, The mechanisms within combined the functions of the Norden's stabilizer and optics, moving the mirror to stabilize the image as well as tracking the target. The controls were likewise much simpler than the Nordens', consisting primarily of three large knurled knobs to adjust aim. Given the low quality of our proposed aircrew-myself included-as top turret/engineer with only 115 hours in a Cessna and considering that ArmiBBY will probably be the bombardier...a used Lofte 7 would be best under the Bilge's KISS principle, especially if we get one of these to go with it with whatever bombsight...they'll be on the Fritz permanently!:Dhttp://www.ctie.monash.edu.au/hargra...293_dm_350.jpg