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STEED 08-04-19 07:32 AM

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/...tain-1.3975378

:hmmm: One thing is for sure prepare for a nightmare and you will be ready sort of..

Jimbuna 08-04-19 10:20 AM

Quote:

EU leaders must give their chief negotiator the mandate to revise the UK's withdrawal agreement, otherwise a no-deal Brexit is "coming down the tracks", the Brexit secretary has said.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49223319
Totally expected message but in reality ain't gonna happen.

STEED 08-04-19 01:59 PM

The EU has nothing much to loose why we have everything to loose. This government sounds wreckless, the question is are they going to act in the same way. :hmmm:

Skybird 08-04-19 02:17 PM

A way to look at the past two weeks is that BJ knows he cannot do much and thus tries to mobilize his voters for general elections, playing the "Tough Brexiteer" card.



He might fall for the same miscalculation like once May did when calling early elections: that such elections will provide the PM with a stronger majority.



The EU of course will stand ready to accept any further delay in exit dates. In fact already several weeks ago Tusk had invited the UK to take more time. Much more time.



Infinite amount of time, at best. That way, things stay as they are and the UK remains a EU member.

Catfish 08-04-19 02:26 PM

Tusk's more pro british than the whole Tory Party :03:

If it all goes so "nice for the EU" as Skybird claims, exactly his would kill Europe. Bogged down for years investing all energy in useless negotiations with Corbyn or Johnson or Farage who all despise Europe.
And it seems they despise Europe more, than their population does.

STEED 08-04-19 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2621464)
Tusk's more pro british than the whole Tory Party :03:

Jim's new drinking buddy. :D :yeah:

Skybird 08-04-19 02:33 PM

^ Hardly.



However, Johnson has not just reason to fear sharing May'S fate with early elections - he also has reason to hope for better outrocme indeed, because apparently he was able to bring back many Tory voters who last time voted for Farrage after being driven away by May.


I think he will go "all in" sooner or later. He probably has no other option. And with one assumption the Tories were right when making him their new party leader: he is the far sharper weapon to deliver hurting strikes at Corbyn, than May was.

Catfish 08-05-19 01:33 AM

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-b...-idUSKCN1UU0OF

Johnson visiting a submarine, Johnson visiting a hospital.. he almost tries to make it look as if he cared.

Skybird 08-05-19 02:45 AM

War drums are rolled before battle, and visiting submarines and hospitals is done before elections.

STEED 08-05-19 05:14 AM

The NHS payment is only a one off and I doubt all that money will go to the frontline where it's needed. I bet some of it will find its way to admin to pay for a £800 box of paper clips.

Yes Bojo is here and everywhere throwing money around getting ready for a general election. That and the big crash out while he packs his bags ready to flee the UK.

Jimbuna 08-05-19 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2621466)
^ Hardly.



However, Johnson has not just reason to fear sharing May'S fate with early elections - he also has reason to hope for better outrocme indeed, because apparently he was able to bring back many Tory voters who last time voted for Farrage after being driven away by May.


I think he will go "all in" sooner or later. He probably has no other option. And with one assumption the Tories were right when making him their new party leader: he is the far sharper weapon to deliver hurting strikes at Corbyn, than May was.

Agreed on all counts even though I consider him nothing more than a blithering idiot :yep:

Jimbuna 08-05-19 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2621464)
Tusk's more pro british than the whole Tory Party :03:

If it all goes so "nice for the EU" as Skybird claims, exactly his would kill Europe. Bogged down for years investing all energy in useless negotiations with Corbyn or Johnson or Farage who all despise Europe.
And it seems they despise Europe more, than their population does.

I'll have you know that Corbyn and his party are now Remainers.

Admittedly Corbyn was forced to change his stance but change his stance he did :yep:

Catfish 08-05-19 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2621532)
I'll have you know that Corbyn and his party are now Remainers.
Admittedly Corbyn was forced to change his stance but change his stance he did :yep:

Ok thanks, so this (his) new stance is official ..
Not out of conviction i guess, but more for tactical reasons :03:
Just not when it comes to antisemitism? :hmmm:

OT: Seriously i do not get why just "the left" has an axe to grind with just of all the jews. I mean if they are so "left" and opposed to the Nazis..
A lot of german left "intellectuals" (lol) pompously declared that Israel would behave like the Nazis in the Levante. Surely there are no better suited people in the whole world than just of all Israel, against whom to strike a pose of moral superiority.

(and yes i mean the last sarcastic of course, i just don't know whether my english capabilities are up to the job)

Jimbuna 08-05-19 09:22 AM

You're doing fine Kai, I'd certainly seek clarafication if I wasn't sure what you had written and sadly, my German (both written and spoken) is a million miles poorer than your English :salute:

Jimbuna 08-05-19 09:31 AM

With regard to your comments on Corbyn/Steptoe

https://i.imgur.com/9PUCLAV.jpg

Here is an interesting if only a short article from a man I know and met during my service years.

Alan Johnson a former minister is one of only a handful of political entities within the Labour Party I still admire.

Quote:

Jeremy Corbyn is 'a total disaster' who 'has people around him to do his shoelaces up' says former Labour minister Alan Johnson
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...id=mailsignout

Jimbuna 08-05-19 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEED (Post 2621523)
The NHS payment is only a one off and I doubt all that money will go to the frontline where it's needed. I bet some of it will find its way to admin to pay for a £800 box of paper clips.

I'm not about to infract myself by posting a fitting response to the above so will simply leave that below as my response.

Quote:

Boris Johnson has given the green light to 20 new building and infrastructure projects in the NHS in England.

The £850m package will pay for new wards, intensive care units and diagnostic centres as well as refurbishing some existing facilities over the next five years.

"It's part of a programme that the NHS asked for and I want to stress this is new money," the prime minister said.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-49230461

ikalugin 08-05-19 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2621560)
I'm not about to infract myself by posting a fitting response to the above so will simply leave that below as my response.

Reminds me of:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-5zEb1oS9A

Jimbuna 08-05-19 01:09 PM

Makes one wonder just how close to reality some comedy shows actually are.

ikalugin 08-05-19 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2621600)
Makes one wonder just how close to reality some comedy shows actually are.

As we say - every joke is only part joke (and part truth).

Jimbuna 08-06-19 05:08 AM

For all those 'Doubting Thomas's' here is further proof that Steptoe, that lifelong anti-EU individual has been forced to change his spots (some leopards actually do).

When those nefarious Tory traitors raise their heads which they will have to do and side with Labour I hope there will be swift retribution from their respective constituencies.

Quote:

Jeremy Corbyn will fight to block no-deal Brexit by calling no-confidence vote.

Jeremy Corbyn will call for a vote of no confidence in the Government this autumn in a bid to stop a damaging no-deal Brexit .

The Labour leader signalled the party would table the motion as soon as MPs return from their summer break in early September.

The Mirror understands that a cross-party group of MPs are spending the recess plotting to stop Mr Johnson leaving without a deal.

Senior Tory MPs - dubbed the “kamikazes” for their willingness to bring the Government down - have stepped up talks with Labour and other Opposition parties in response to the growing threat.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brexi...id=mailsignout


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