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Happy Times 06-10-10 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring (Post 1416110)
How typically racist of you to say something like that.

Its not racist to despise other cultures, they are not equal to each other in any way.
The left is trying to monopolize the right to define what is and isnt racism.
Good luck with that, it will backfire badly.:salute:



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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring (Post 1416110)
I find Israel's silence concerning it's own acts much more sinister. I'm sure the Palestinians would rather change places with the Israelis instead of languishing in the refugee camps decade after decade.

You are skewed in that way, you sympathize the ones playing victim but that are actually the true aggressor.
Hamas and its supporters would bring only darkness in to this world if they ever had their way.

tater 06-10-10 01:06 PM

If the Palestinians changed places power wise they'd murder all the Jews.

There'd be no "occupied" areas, they'd bump all of them off.

The "activists" were even recorded on the radio telling the IDF to "go back to Auschwitz" (an opinion mirrored by Helen Thomas, though she was diplomatic enough to generalize to "Poland" (there was more than one camp, after all)).

From the Hamas Charter:
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"There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors."

"After Palestine, the Zionists aspire to expand from the Nile to the Euphrates. When they will have digested the region they overtook, they will aspire to further expansion, and so on. Their plan is embodied in the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion", and their present conduct is the best proof of what we are saying."
And the worst bit:
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Moreover, if the links have been distant from each other and if obstacles, placed by those who are the lackeys of Zionism in the way of the fighters obstructed the continuation of the struggle, the Islamic Resistance Movement aspires to the realisation of Allah's promise, no matter how long that should take. The Prophet, Allah bless him and grant him salvation, has said:

"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Muslim).
The government of Palestine, Hamas, in its own words there aspires to murder all jews everywhere.

What more does one need to read to think that Hamas need to be expunged, and anyone supporting them is tantamount to supporting Nazi Germany.

Happy Times 06-10-10 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by tater (Post 1416114)


The government of Palestine, Hamas, in its own words there aspires to murder all jews everywhere.

What more does one need to read to think that Hamas need to be expunged, and anyone supporting them is tantamount to supporting Nazi Germany.

The Hamas covenant is very clear.
The European left has always supported them, its not that long from when they where themselfs setting bombs and training in the same terror camps.

Tribesman 06-10-10 01:15 PM

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The "activists" were even recorded on the radio telling the IDF to "go back to Auschwitz"
Oh dear. Please keep up to date.
The IDF has recently apologised for that fake recording it put on its propoganda site.
In fact they and the government apologised for quite a few things relating to what they have claimed about events and the aftermath that people here have dutifuly parroted as the "truth".

tater 06-10-10 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1416122)
Oh dear. Please keep up to date.
The IDF has recently apologised for that fake recording it put on its propoganda site.
In fact they and the government apologised for quite a few things relating to what they have claimed about events and the aftermath that people here have dutifuly parroted as the "truth".

Sorry if I'm out of date.

What about the meat of the post—the Hamas Charter?

MH 06-10-10 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1416122)
Oh dear. Please keep up to date.
The IDF has recently apologised for that fake recording it put on its propoganda site.
In fact they and the government apologised for quite a few things relating to what they have claimed about events and the aftermath that people here have dutifuly parroted as the "truth".


http://idfspokesperson.com/2010/06/0...n-5-june-2010/

Tribesman 06-10-10 01:27 PM

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What about the meat of the post—the Hamas Charter?
That pile of crap is the meat?????
Simple question for ya Tater.
Who is defending Hamas?
In case you didn't notice much criticism of Israels stupidity is because its actions help Hamas.

tater 06-10-10 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1416133)
That pile of crap is the meat?????

Yeah, the Hamas Charter IS a pile of ****, I agree.

You're not going to try and defend the Hamas Charter, are you?

I'd be against any religious nutjobs (yeah, I know, that's sort of redundant) who had a similar charter, regardless of flavor.

BTW, the nasty bit I posted is in article seven.

Happy Times 06-10-10 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1416122)
Oh dear. Please keep up to date.
The IDF has recently apologised for that fake recording it put on its propoganda site.
In fact they and the government apologised for quite a few things relating to what they have claimed about events and the aftermath that people here have dutifuly parroted as the "truth".

Bla bla..
Where the Turks in that boat part of the Turkish Muslim Brotherhood?
Is Hamas a charter in Muslim Brotherhood?
Is Al Qaida the brainchild of the Muslim Broherhood?

Israel and Europe is the target of these maniacs and they try to divide and conquer, terrorize and immigrate us in to submission.

OneToughHerring 06-10-10 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by tater (Post 1416136)
Yeah, the Hamas Charter IS a pile of ****, I agree.

You're not going to try and defend the Hamas Charter, are you?

I'd be against any religious nutjobs (yeah, I know, that's sort of redundant) who had a similar charter, regardless of flavor.

How about an entire nation based on the wishes of an imaginary creature that only speaks to certain people? That qualify as religious nutjobbery?

Tribesman 06-10-10 01:40 PM

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Bla bla..
Where the Turks in that boat part of the Turkish Muslim Brotherhood?
Is Hamas a charter in Muslim Brotherhood?
Is Al Qaida the brainchild of the Muslim Broherhood?
What has any of that got to do with the price of cheese?

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Israel and Europe is the target of these maniacs and they try to divide and conquer, terrorize and immigrate us in to submission.
Its lucky we have the superior pure white nordic race to defend us then

Happy Times 06-10-10 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1416142)
What has any of that got to do with the price of cheese?

Good argument.:yeah:

tater 06-10-10 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring (Post 1416139)
How about an entire nation based on the wishes of an imaginary creature that only speaks to certain people? That qualify as religious nutjobbery?

All religions are nutty.

Which culture has produced more enlightened, secular thinkers in SPITE of religion?

Who is the Arab Spinoza, for example?

Apostasy has one punishment in Islam according to the Hadith. Death. Unlike many other bits that are argued about by Islamic scholars, this one is utterly clear.

Spinoza was effectively excommunicated (the jewish version). Were he a Muslim, he'd have been executed. Note of course that the Spanish Inquisitors would have possibly done the same to him—maybe some Islamic thought rubbed off on them after hundreds of years of ocupation before the reconquista.

Happy Times 06-10-10 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MH (Post 1416126)

Tribesman again wrong but refuses to admit it.

tater 06-10-10 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Times (Post 1416143)
Good argument.:yeah:

He uses that odd turn of phrase a lot.

The point is that the flotilla was terrorist supporters, hoping to aid terrorists politically. Hamas, the Muslim Brotherhood, and any related organizations have nothing at all to offer civilization. They are all in fact anti-civilization, anti-enlightenment, anti-secular... not to mention misogynistic.

I know little about cheese, but it's funny to see people who claim to be enlightened, and progressive come out of the woodwork to defend medieval scumbags who are against virtually everything that is socially progressive (I guess I should be explicit regarding social progressiveness vs the political flavor where it is an attempt to re-badge totalitarianism (communism)—in the latter case they have a lot in common I guess. FWIW, I'm a political conservative (lower case), and in most all ways a social progressive (live and let live). In the US that makes me a "lower case" libertarian I guess.)


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