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Catfish 07-25-19 04:00 PM

https://i.imgur.com/N0UGFjAm.jpg

Jimbuna 07-26-19 06:06 AM

Not too tardy a first Commons speech.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKvzELXosVw

Skybird 07-26-19 10:18 AM

^ Am I mistaken or has election season been opened right yesterday?

STEED 07-26-19 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2620391)
^ Am I mistaken or has election season been opened right yesterday?

Election as in general election?...Possible, I received voting registration papers today. :hmmm:

Catfish 07-26-19 02:04 PM

^ don't be so serious, i guess it's sarcasm paired with hope, after this Video :03:

Jimbuna 07-27-19 06:59 AM

Quote:

US President Donald Trump has said talks about a "very substantial" trade deal with the UK are under way.

He said a bilateral post-Brexit deal could lead to a "three to four, five times" increase in current trade.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49135045
I don't put too much emphasis on this because Trump has a history of suddenly changing his mind when it suits.

kraznyi_oktjabr 07-27-19 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2620495)
I don't put too much emphasis on this because Trump has a history of suddenly changing his mind when it suits.

Yeah, not very trustworthy person by track record. I also started pondering this claim...
Quote:

He said a bilateral post-Brexit deal could lead to a "three to four, five times" increase in current trade.
Does this mean in both directions or you guys in the UK buying a lot of soybeans? :hmmm:

Jimbuna 07-27-19 07:29 AM

I guess he means both directions but I still don't trust the guy.

Catfish 07-27-19 08:30 AM

Johnson and Cummings will see to (whatever the outcome will be) it will be presented as a "victory" for them, and to you.

Jimbuna 07-27-19 09:33 AM

Quote:

Prime Minister Boris Johnson has promised a faster rail route between Leeds and Manchester, claiming the benefits would be "colossal".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-49132477
The charm offensive continues but where is all the money going to come from ?

kraznyi_oktjabr 07-27-19 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2620520)
The charm offensive continues but where is all the money going to come from ?

If he continues at current pace, only "viable" answer is tax increases and pension cuts...


That reminded me of one somewhat ironic thing in the Brexit: tax paying, working age people are leaving the UK, while pension rising, elderly subjects are returning to enjoy NHS services as they no longer can do so elsewhere (as EU member state's citizens they were covered in other EU countires to certain extent). At the same time many educated, working age Britons are applying for Belgian, French, Finnish and other nationailities to continue working here.


I'm not saying this is deal maker/breaker, but its nice silver lining in this mess from Finnish (and propably Spanish as well) point of view.

Catfish 07-27-19 05:11 PM

It's like in the US, which probably is why Trump loves BoJo so much.

Johnson simply acts in a fact-free zone. There is no need to address any specifics, or actual evidence. He has crafted this technique with his anti-EU crusade, supported by xenophobe feelings. He simply talks and talks and talks like a steamroller, it does not have to be true.

But his unfounded claims and phantasies resonate with conservatives like Rees-Mogg who want their own forthcoming promoted, to be hidden - though officially supported - by the "imperial spirit".
Anything trying to introduce modern science or ideas is being regarded as a personal attack. They publicly claim that teamwork with other nations on an equal level would destroy patriotism and ENGLAND. When it comes to Ireland, Wales or Scotland, they are dismissed as lower colonies.

Bojo tries to impress by catchphrases and slur to avoid serious discussion, to connect with voters liking their resentment and bias to be reflected by a public figure or 'importance'.
Remains to see if voters fall for this.

STEED 07-27-19 07:11 PM

Bojo is clearly on the vote for me by making big promises and throwing money around like there is no tomorrow. Once again people are taken in what next, Bojo takes to the air and visits as many city's as he can. Well it worked for you know who...

Jimbuna 07-28-19 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2620555)
It's like in the US, which probably is why Trump loves BoJo so much.

Johnson simply acts in a fact-free zone. There is no need to address any specifics, or actual evidence. He has crafted this technique with his anti-EU crusade, supported by xenophobe feelings. He simply talks and talks and talks like a steamroller, it does not have to be true.

But his unfounded claims and phantasies resonate with conservatives like Rees-Mogg who want their own forthcoming promoted, to be hidden - though officially supported - by the "imperial spirit".
Anything trying to introduce modern science or ideas is being regarded as a personal attack. They publicly claim that teamwork with other nations on an equal level would destroy patriotism and ENGLAND. When it comes to Ireland, Wales or Scotland, they are dismissed as lower colonies.

Bojo tries to impress by catchphrases and slur to avoid serious discussion, to connect with voters liking their resentment and bias to be reflected by a public figure or 'importance'.
Remains to see if voters fall for this.

What could possibly go wrong?

https://i.imgur.com/ZNeaFMN.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/FHFiuTI.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/WBbq2qM.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/gkFuSbM.jpg

:03:

Jimbuna 07-28-19 08:35 AM

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No-deal Brexit now 'assumed' by government, says Gove.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49141375
Things aren't looking all that great atm but I'd still like to know how this will get past Parliament.

STEED 07-28-19 09:14 AM

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk...on-tells-boris

Wonder who will or so speak out from the tory ranks in Westminster, one thing is for sure both sides are preparing for a Westminster bloodbath after the summer break. Most businesses are still not ready for a crash out.

So Bojo the clock is ticking the game of poker is coming to a end are you going to show your cards and money or are you going to run away.

Skybird 07-28-19 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2620632)
Things aren't looking all that great atm but I'd still like to know how this will get past Parliament.

Translates into: How will no-confidence vote and elections be avoided until Octobre 31st?


He seems to contradict himself in strategy there. He makes promises that obviously aim at winning the next election. Still any early elections are a very uncertain ground for the Tories right now, and he seems to repeat the same mistake that May once did: overestimating chances.


Anyhow, he is in a trap already. And he volunteered for stepping into it.

Catfish 07-29-19 03:25 AM

^ i guesss his "strategy" is to fend off Farrago in promising and trying to create even more hyperbole than the latter.

STEED 07-29-19 05:34 AM

Tories are in front of the Brexit party in the latest polls.....SO WHAT!

Bojo will be blocked by the EU and Parliment at every turn so watch the tories fall again in the polls.


Meanwhile Bojo is off to Scotland to sweat talk the fish wife and throw money at her. Once again we ask where is the money coming from, the magic money tree?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...itics-49146480

In the world of business the CBI has warned the UK and the EU are not ready for a crash out.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49142762

Catfish 07-29-19 06:19 AM

@Jim: ^^^those Boris pictures are mean
:haha:


Quote:

Originally Posted by STEED (Post 2620735)
[...] Meanwhile Bojo is off to Scotland to sweat talk the fish wife and throw money at her. Once again we ask where is the money coming from, the magic money tree? [...]

Boris Johnson also said he wanted to massively cut company taxes.
So maybe Steed has to pay instead :o

Seriously, if all else fails.. what about a united Ireland? Backstop would not be necessary.
What about Scotland?


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