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Skybird 07-14-19 05:19 AM

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48978739


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Mr Davis, who quit as Brexit secretary last year, told the BBC that the Treasury wanted to avoid talking about the prospect of leaving without a deal.
He concluded that many in Whitehall did not believe it would ever happen - despite two years of planning.
"I've got to be able to say to you 'if this doesn't work we'll leave anyway' and you've got to believe it.
"And for you to believe it I've got to believe it. And I don't think Whitehall really ever believed that they would actually carry out the plans we laid so carefully over two years."
Wowh, that frankly it got rarely put by somebody that there never was the intention to carry out the Brexit referendum's demand anyway. Well, I did, form beginning on, but I do not count. :oops:


Quote:

But despite spending £4.2bn on Brexit preparations, Mr Hammond warned that the government has limited influence on how a no-deal scenario might look.
Asked if the UK can control Brexit, he said: "We can't because many of the levers are held by others - the EU 27 or private business. We can seek to persuade them but we can't control it."

Stay with us, we will enjoy your band music on deck while our ship is going down.

Jimbuna 07-14-19 05:33 AM

She's at it again.

Quote:

Anti-Brexit campaigner Gina Miller says she will take the government to court if the next PM tries to shut down Parliament to push through no deal.

Ms Miller, who won a legal battle against ministers over Article 50, said the step would be "an abuse" of powers.

She told Sky News she wanted to "defend Parliamentary sovereignty", not stop Brexit.

Brexiteer MP Priti Patel said it was "not acceptable" to use the courts to try to tie the hands of MPs.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48980408

Skybird 07-14-19 05:42 AM

Needless sabre rattling - Johnson as PM has no intention to leave without deal, I assure you this. Like May he plans to weasel around and turn things such that Britain will stay tied to the EU - the difference is that May wanted that from beginning on, while Johnson maybe not, but starts to play "May-hem" - pardon the pun - only when he does not get renegotiations with the EU. Which he will not get.


Brexit is as good as over a project. They all play just a theatre stage play. They all cheat and lie. ;) May, Johnson, Corbyn, and the many others - them all.

Jimbuna 07-14-19 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2618423)
Needless sabre rattling - Johnson as PM has no intention to leave without deal, I assure you this. Like May he plans to weasel around and turn things such that Britain will stay tied to the EU - the difference is that May wanted that from beginning on, while Johnson maybe not, but starts to play "May-hem" - pardon the pun - only when he does not get renegotiations with the EU. Which he will not get.


Brexit is as good as over a project. They all play just a theatre stage play. They all cheat and lie. ;) May, Johnson, Corbyn, and the many others - them all.

Agreed and I said as much many posts ago (can't be bothered to search) :yep:

Skybird 07-15-19 02:18 AM

^ However. Yesterday I saw some interesting documentation, 10 minutes or so, about the background of this extreme Brexit wing in the Tories party, and the strong business and economic ties these people have with the US. I did not know that these connections were this extreme, I only knew that this group exists. The narration went like this: that the US and Trump and their associates in Britain want the Brexit not despite but right because of the chaos it now would bring: the bigger chaos, the better, because chaos and economic turmoil always also means chance and opportunity for prepared, ahead-planning entrepreneurs with deep money pockets who want to take the chance to bite out big heaps of the British economy and finances and see a chance for big US business to especially get control over parts of the British economy and public services by privatization. Following this narration I would conclude that the US and Trump probably are the biggest enemy of Britain. Narration further included the tale that Johnson maybe knows what he is heading for - and even if he would want to change it and bail out, he no longer can, being driven by names in the background and forces that he has no control over, that abuse him and will spit him out once they chewd enough on him and Brexit chaos has been delivered.

The disobedient children of the revolution return back home to England to take it over. Say hello. Mind you, this strategy woudl exactly follow Trump's predatory scheme: destroy international treaties, get bilateral nation-to-nation deals on an individual basis as a replacement, and in this arrangement mercilessly push the other against the wall. Special relation thing? Pfffft, only you imperial Brits still believe in this nostalghic echo from history. :O:

Jimbuna 07-15-19 04:50 AM

^ And all the above can be summed up in one word....'Politics' :yep:

STEED 07-15-19 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2618417)
She's at it again.

Ms Miller was deeply upset about the abuse she got from morons last time and she is asking for these morons to step up their abuse of her. I don't like the way she thinks but I for one would not give her grief.

Jimbuna 07-15-19 11:30 AM

Tonight brings the final episode of the Tory political circus.

I can hardly wait https://i.imgur.com/0nmqnue.gif

Quote:

Boris Johnson and Jeremy Hunt are preparing for the second and final head-to-head debate of the Conservative leadership campaign.

They will face 90 minutes of questions from Sun newspaper readers.

The event, starting at 19.00 BST, will be streamed live on the newspaper's website and broadcast on Talk Radio.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48988420

Jimbuna 07-16-19 05:23 AM

'Parliamentary bible' Erskine May available online for free.

Anyone sad enough to be interested https://erskinemay.parliament.uk/

STEED 07-16-19 07:46 AM

^Hey its free jim like a free beer...oh wait a free beer is better. :)

Yes both the low profile and super high profile Lib/Con race to become leaders is almost over. Shame the only one that really should count the downfall of you know who, come on moderate Labour get that thing and its followers out of Labour.

Jimbuna 07-16-19 08:53 AM

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Tory leadership contender Jeremy Hunt has refused to guarantee that the UK will leave the EU before Christmas, but said he "expects" it to happen by then.

He would not say when Brexit would take place if he became PM, telling the BBC: "I'm being honest with people".

Rival Boris Johnson said the UK would leave by 31 October "come what may".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48963421
Why can't they both just show a bit of realistic paragmatism and honesty and say they've no idea how to achieve this Brexit at all because Parliament will not allow it?

Jimbuna 07-16-19 09:03 AM

Quote:

Brexit Talks Get More Hostile as EU Considers Sweeteners to Deal
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brexi...id=mailsignout
Are the EU going to 'blink' first?

I don't think so.

Jimbuna 07-16-19 12:31 PM

Nigel Farage causes chaos by slamming von der Leyen’s ‘communist’ vision.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z75l0hhuw-4

I'm still not convinced he is correct in asserting the belief that Brexit will go ahead.

Catfish 07-16-19 02:55 PM

hehe, what a ridiculous show. So Farage 'you' are humiliated? I hope to see this more often, and soon :haha:
You're toast!

STEED 07-17-19 05:58 AM

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LONDON (Reuters) - More than 60 opposition Labour members of Britain’s upper house of parliament signed a statement in a newspaper on Wednesday accusing leader Jeremy Corbyn of failing “the test of leadership” over anti-Semitism in the party.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-br...-idUKKCN1UC0UI
As if that thing cares about that, the time has come for moderate Labour to get rid of that thing and the gang.

Jimbuna 07-17-19 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2618805)
hehe, what a ridiculous show. So Farage 'you' are humiliated? I hope to see this more often, and soon :haha:
You're toast!

I thought you'd approve :)

STEED 07-17-19 06:11 AM

WOOHOO May has woken up and hammered that anti-Semite at PMQ's. That thing did not like it.


I picked up from JU 88 comment some pages back and here it is..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xg7JwbJfWA

Are they planning another crack at Russia? :hmmm: :03: :haha:

Jimbuna 07-17-19 06:24 AM

That's an old video.

STEED 07-17-19 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2618875)
That's an old video.

Still has meaning. :03:

Jimbuna 07-17-19 06:38 AM

It certainly has for Nigel.


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