^ Yea yea yea, here we go the moderates are alarmed and we must move forward and end this, same old BS. Steptoe and his gang are raging anti-semites and if you lot don't get off your arses and boot him and his gang out of Labour then you are a useless load of b'stards. I'm sick to death of Labour under the boot of steptoe and his gang of anti-semites while he sucks up to terrorist's.

yeah Forget about Labour Jim, its over. While they might still market them selves as the 'party of the poeple/workers' to their legacy voters their more northern constituencies, they are absolutely the party of the Southern progressive Soy frapachino drinking Guardian reader.
Vote for them if you want 1930's Social equity 'though an intersectional lense' :doh: or if they kick out team Corbyn, a Tony Blair MkII, Because i don't see what else they can really offer at this stage.
In 2018, they tried to hold a conference with different ticket prices for different races. If that's not rock bottom I don't know what is.

That said, I'm not advocating any of the other three, I too would have traditionally been a Labour voter, but I have zero faith in them to provide the most basic level of competence now. I cannot trust any party who are Ideologues first and technocrats second. All that approach has ever done in the long run is break things.

Having anti-semitic communists makes Labour spicy.

Yep, looks like we are both in the same boat Francis. In fact, just the other night I floated the idea with the wife about emigrating and her response was "Where to and what about our six week old grandaughter Lucia"?

I didn't have an answer.

One of the few topics they genuinely agree on and one on which I totally support.

Checking a couple of my Hotmail accounts and look what popped up :o

:haha:

For those of you who feel you must vote..


Labour under the present leader who I will not state that persons name anymore will bankrupt the country and the result the Conservatives back in power for a good 10 to 15 years, do you really want that? Labour is in the hands of gangsters and until this lot are booted out there is no hope for Labour.


Conservatives are about to change there leader for the front runner Boris who will crash the UK out of the EU without agreement with them and massive tariffs here we come, Boris and his rich buddies can ride out the rough time can you?


LibDems are also about to change there leader and both candidates have stated they will not work with Labour with their current leader if Labour wins a hung Parliament. LibDems may increase their seats but never will run the country.


SNP will probably not work with Labour with in a hung Parliament without massive demands.


DUP will probably work with Boris and if the Conservatives win a hung Parliament the DUP will be in a better position to make massive demands for their support.


The Brexit Party could very well win a few seats but remember under Nigel UKIP was predicted to win up to 50 seats at one of the past general elections which in the number of votes they came fourth with no seats.



I don't care what that lot say at Westminster the evidence speaks for its self. Politicians do not give a dam about us its all bloody sound bites and fake news from them now, politics is dead.

You're missing one salient point regarding Farage....This time he has a valid agenda that more voters can identify with, even more so that that which UKIP had......Betrayal!

Boris will probably crash us out the EU and Brexit party will be history. The backlash will not be pretty, I hope we leave with a deal but I fear the worst.

I doubt we will ever see a Brexit under the current political climate.

I will be happy with that.

I voted to leave the EU with I hoped a orderly withdraw, care too note I paid no attention to the reforendrum campaign and if I did I would have not bothered voting ether way.

So now here today I rather stay in the EU and we plan for the collapse of the EU because one day it will happen and on that day we will be ready. But with the load of usless swine we have at Westminster your probably better off doing your own planing.

Boris may not be able to legally crash us out - not without the support of parliament. The EU would have to kick us out, but as long as they get £££ out of us, they wont.
While Boris has more conviction than May I don't think he is any more competent TBH.

Problem is he is not going to do a MayBot and come Oct 31st he knows if he stays in his career is over.

:hmmm:

She may (no pun intended) have been stubborn and naive but I can't knock her honesty.

I'll readily admit I'm a fan of the This Week programme that is about to stop airing and believe Andrew Neil to be a competent interviewer. So here are the interviews facts and claims by both Johnson and Hunt being set out and checked.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48965645

This is a good site too Jim:
https://fullfact.org/

Take that you ragging Anti-Semite and you ragging Anti-Semites.

Yea I some times dip in there, don't like opening what I want to read in a new tab, I want double click.

Some other good sites I dip into.
https://www.politicshome.com
https://www.politics.co.uk
https://www.theyworkforyou.com
https://www.parliament.uk

Been a few times recently and yes, not bad at all.