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Jimbuna 07-01-19 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED (Post 2616420)
Steptoe has been given a blow from both LibDem leadership candidates on SKY debate, both will not work with steptoe if Labour wins a general election. This has now made it harder for steptoe as he will need to pass the magic line to form a government on his own. Both LibDems feel steptoe has taken Labour to the far left and on that I agree with them.

Pretty much works for me as well :yep:

Jimbuna 07-01-19 10:23 AM

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Jeremy Hunt has said he would decide by the end of September whether there is a "realistic chance" of reaching a new Brexit deal with the EU.

The Tory leadership contender said he would deliver a provisional "no-deal Brexit budget" in early September and then give the EU three weeks.

He vowed to abandon talks after that if there was no "immediate prospect" of progress and move to a no-deal footing.

His rival Boris Johnson has vowed to leave "come what may" by 31 October.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48819260
The question remains unchanged...."How will you deliver a no deal Brexit" ?

kraznyi_oktjabr 07-01-19 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2616442)
The question remains unchanged...."How will you deliver a no deal Brexit" ?

Maybe I'm missing something (I haven't followed the circus lately) but what you mean with "delivering no deal Brexit?" I aave understood, that October 31st Brexit date is written into legislation and therefore only thing Bojo has to do is to ensure that the Parliament does not amend that law. At the moment I don't believe that either candidate has realistic chance in sweet talking EU back into negotiation table.

Jimbuna 07-01-19 01:38 PM

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Hammond says Tory leadership candidates must 'be honest' over spending plans.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48832080
I doubt either of them understand the true meaning of the word :hmmm:

Jimbuna 07-02-19 09:21 AM

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Brexit Party MEPs turned their backs during the EU's Ode To Joy anthem, while Lib Dem MEPs wore yellow "Stop Brexit" T-shirts on the first day of European Parliament.

Brexit Party leader Nigel Farage said his 29 MEPs were "cheerfully defiant" and made their "presence felt".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48839829
It has begun.

Jimbuna 07-02-19 09:23 AM

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Chancellor Philip Hammond has signalled he would be prepared to vote against a no-deal Brexit in Parliament, claiming it could cost the UK up to £90bn.

Leaving the EU without a legal agreement would be the "wrong" policy and cause a huge "hit" to the public finances, he told MPs.

He said it was "highly unlikely" he would still be in his job after Theresa May stands down next month.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48841908
Yes, highly unlikely indeed.

STEED 07-02-19 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2616606)
It has begun.

Both Brexit and LibDems acted like twits, in the case of brexit why did they just not sat there like some others i noted.

Catfish 07-03-19 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2616606)
[...] Brexit Party leader Nigel Farage said his 29 MEPs were "cheerfully defiant" and made their "presence felt". [...]

The brexiters turned their back when the EU hymn was being played.
Nigel Farrago, I guess this is all he lives for, to present himself.

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/jul/01/nigel-farage-furious-over-tv-show-assassinating-neil-fromage-year-of-the-rabbit :haha:
Nigel being furious, what news. This jer.. gets way too much coverage.

Jimbuna 07-03-19 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2616724)
The brexiters turned their back when the EU hymn was being played.
Nigel Farrago, I guess this is all he lives for, to present himself.

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/jul/01/nigel-farage-furious-over-tv-show-assassinating-neil-fromage-year-of-the-rabbit :haha:
Nigel being furious, what news. This jer.. gets way too much coverage.

Yes, he is certainly something of an odd ball.

STEED 07-03-19 11:20 AM

Brexit party join the LibDems Greens and the SNP....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48847542

Sorry while the Cons and Lab rule the roost there will be no change as the current system works well for them. :03:

JU_88 07-04-19 03:32 AM

Jeremy C.. I mean Hunt Is open to lifting the ban on fox hunting.
Why are the Tories so determined to shoot them selves in the foot with this one every election? :haha: They must have some posh mates badgering them to legalize it or something.

@Steed, check this mornings headlines, Lib Dems and Brexit Party have over taken Labour in the polls.
https://news.sky.com/story/labour-fa...-poll-11756313
I smell a Con/BP Coalition coming.

Jimbuna 07-04-19 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by JU_88 (Post 2616866)
Jeremy C.. I mean Hunt Is open to lifting the ban on fox hunting.
Why are the Tories so determined to shoot them selves in the foot with this one every election? :haha: They must have some posh mates badgering them to legalize it or something.

He said "[Hunting] is part of the countryside. And we have to recognise that in terms of the balance of the countryside. You know, it's part of our heritage."

I'd be saying "So was highway robbery and the drowning of women to determine if they were witches or not". So why not bring them back as well"?

ikalugin 07-04-19 06:50 AM

Journalists from Zvezda "borrowed" the schematic from here:
http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-708.html

STEED 07-04-19 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ikalugin (Post 2616892)
Journalists from Zvezda "borrowed" the schematic from here:
http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-708.html

Not sure what this has to do with UK politics but hey as its dull at the moment gives me time to learn Russian so i can read the link. :)

STEED 07-04-19 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by JU_88 (Post 2616866)
Jeremy C.. I mean Hunt Is open to lifting the ban on fox hunting.
Why are the Tories so determined to shoot them selves in the foot with this one every election? :haha: They must have some posh mates badgering them to legalize it or something.

@Steed, check this mornings headlines, Lib Dems and Brexit Party have over taken Labour in the polls.
https://news.sky.com/story/labour-fa...-poll-11756313
I smell a Con/BP Coalition coming.

I suggest MP hunting season so we can get our own back on these wasters. :) :03:

Jimbuna 07-04-19 09:01 AM

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The two Tory leadership candidates have been challenged to bring forward plans to tackle the social care crisis in England if they become prime minister.

A committee of peers has called for an immediate £8bn cash increase and a move to a free, NHS-based system.

Jeremy Hunt has pledged more council funding and an opt-out insurance system for people to save for future care.

Boris Johnson says more money should be found, with policy worked out according to a cross-party plan.

Meanwhile, councils say the government's delayed plans on elderly care should be published by September at the latest.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48855645
The social care issue is the only one that is greater than Brexit so it will be interesting to see what 'promises' are made.

ikalugin 07-04-19 10:10 AM

I derped by posting it in the wrong place. This was about the curious schematic being mentioned in relation to the recent Russian submarine fire.


Can the mods please move it? :(

MGR1 07-04-19 10:47 AM

Oops:

Brexit is the priority even if UK splits, Nigel Farage tells Robert Peston

Now we know. For Farage it appears that Brexit may actually mean Engxit, from both the EU and the UK....


Rather makes sense, actually. In his pre-EU election hustings in Edinburgh he actively courted Eurosceptic pro-Indy types for whom independence means independence (Guardian article from the time):

Scotland won't be independent within EU, says Farage

I wouldn't say I'm a diehard Unionist (too many negative connotations - sectarianism for starters) but I think this highlights the disconnect between general public opinion in England, for whom the Union would be nice, but don't believe in forcing the home nations to stay together, and Unionists in both Scotland and Northern Ireland, for whom the Union is sacrosanct and shall never be broken for any reason.

Not sure how that can be dealt with.:hmmm:

Mike.

Catfish 07-05-19 01:30 AM

Farrago would be nothing without project fear (immigration) or the subsequent brexit.
His whole claim to power is based only on this.

How anyone can expect any other visions or future plans is beyond me :doh:

JU_88 07-05-19 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2617049)
Farrago would be nothing without project fear (immigration) or the subsequent brexit.
His whole claim to power is based only on this.

How anyone can expect any other visions or future plans is beyond me :doh:

..and because Cons and Labour are trucking useless morons.


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