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Schroeder 01-21-16 04:16 PM

Some all purpose terrorists are at it in Somalia again...
http://www.dw.com/en/twin-suicide-at...ach/a-18997142

eddie 01-21-16 05:51 PM

Daesh has a new copy of their new magazine out, calling for attacks against all Shia. Guess they hate everyone,lol Its ok as far as they are concerned to kill other Muslims like the Shia. Had to laugh at this pic from the articles page!:D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...psojesuhbo.jpg

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/01...n-muslims.html

August 01-21-16 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealhead (Post 2375131)
Yes they will it is illegal for any US citizen to fight in a foreign armed force. This is why Western Europeans and North Americans that do go do not identify themselves by name. Nor do they state where they where when they return home.

Actually it's only illegal in certain circumstances

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Federal statutes long in force prohibit certain aspects of foreign military service originating within the United States. The current laws are set forth in Section 958-960 of Title 18 of the United States Code. In Wiborg v. U.S. , 163 U.S. 632 (1896), the Supreme Court endorsed a lower court ruling that it was not a crime under U.S. law for an individual to go abroad for the purpose of enlisting in a foreign army; however, when someone has been recruited or hired in the United States, a violation may have occurred. The prosecution of persons who have violated 18 U.S.C. 958-960 is the responsibility of the Department of Justice. Although a person's enlistment in the armed forces of a foreign country may not constitute a violation of U.S. law, it could subject him or her to the provisions of Section 349(a)(3) of the INA [8 U.S.C. 1481(a)(3)] which provides for loss of U.S. nationality if a U.S national voluntarily and with the intention of relinquishing U.S. nationality enters or serves in the armed forces of a foreign state engaged in hostilities against the United States or serves in the armed forces of any foreign country as a commissioned or non-commissioned officer.
Military service in foreign countries, however, usually does not cause loss of nationality since an intention to relinquish nationality normally is lacking. In adjudicating loss of nationality cases, the Department has established an administrative presumption that a person serving in the armed forces of a foreign state not engaged in hostilities against the United States does not have the intention to relinquish nationality. On the other hand, voluntary service in the armed forces of a state engaged in hostilities against the United States could be viewed as indicative of an intention to relinquish U.S. nationality.

travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal-considerations/us-citizenship-laws-policies/citizenship-and-dual-nationality/citizenship-and-foreign-military-service.html

Rockstar 01-23-16 12:56 AM

I think someone here already voiced this concern. Looking forward to February's vote to see how it all pans out.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/01/22...-of-emergency/

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Could an Entire French Generation Grow Up in a State of Emergency?

In November, after Islamic State terrorists slaughtered 130 people in Paris, French President Francois Hollande wasted no time declaring a national state of emergency. It allowed security forces to raid homes without warrants, impose curfews, and prevent large gatherings.

A week later, with the country still on edge, French lawmakers agreed to extend the state of emergency for three months, and reformed the law to allow police to search computers found in raids and easily place suspects under house arrest.

But Prime Minister Manuel Valls warned Friday that the mandate could last until the Islamic State is defeated. And that could be for years to come.

In an interview with the BBC at the Davos World Economic Forum, Valls said the war against the Islamic State could last for an entire generation, and that emergency measures could remain in place “as long as is necessary” and “until we can get rid of Daesh” — using an acronym for the extremist group.

“As long as the threat is there we must use all means at our disposal,” he said.

The current measures will expire in February, and French lawmakers will need to decide in coming days whether or not they will again extend the state of emergency — the first since the Algerian War. The ability to launch raids without warrants has paved the way for Hollande to take a tougher stance on terrorism after the country’s right-wing political parties accused the socialist leader of being weak on national security issues.

One reform that has been floated would strip dual citizens convicted of terrorism of their French citizenship.

Although many French citizens have favored the state of emergency, United Nations experts have urged Paris to repeal the measures unless they are going to be used specifically to target terrorists. Their concern was sparked by the fact environmental activists have also been put under house arrest, although they do not appear to be a threat to national security.

“While exceptional measures may be required under exceptional circumstances, this does not relieve the authorities from demonstrating that these are applied solely for the purposes for which they were prescribed, and are directly related to the specific objective that inspired them,” the group of experts wrote to the French government this week.

And last week, Council of Europe’s human rights commissioner Nils Muiznieks warned that if extended for too long, the emergency laws could threaten democracy and encourage ethnic profiling.

“There is a risk that these measures could sap the system of democratic control,” he said.

Oberon 01-23-16 08:19 AM

http://workplacepsychology.files.wor...pportunity.png

Skybird 01-23-16 11:29 AM

Where is the opportunity in this mess.

Originator of the quote by the way is not Kennedy, Richard Wilhelm decades before him, translator of the first authentic portation of the I Ching into a Western language - which happened to be not English, but German. Just btw, since I appreciate the I Ging's value as a tool of self-reflection.

Oberon 01-23-16 12:18 PM

A State of Emergency is always a good opportunity to pass laws to restrict the freedom of people under the auspices of fighting against terrorism. Look at the PATRIOT Act.
I had a horrid feeling in the aftermath of Paris that something like this might happen.

eddie 01-23-16 01:04 PM

Oberon, its kind of funny to say ISIS backwards, got a definite sissy sound to it,lol

kraznyi_oktjabr 01-23-16 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by eddie (Post 2375149)
Are you sure about that? As long as they don't fight for an enemy army, little if anything will be done to them.

"Unlike Americans joining Islamic State, who can face terrorism charges, citizens like them risk little trouble back home. U.S. officials say volunteering to fight overseas, while discouraged, isn’t illegal if an American isn’t joining an enemy or group the U.S. labels terrorist."

And they gave their names and the FBI knows they are there. 2 former Iraq war veterans!

http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-amer...sis-1441362601

Those articles require subscription. Could you give us a summary of their content?

eddie 01-23-16 01:35 PM

The FBI basically says there are not more then 100 Americans fighting with the Kurds against Daesh. The two men they talk about in this article, one is an Army Vet (40 years old) who is still fighting there. Before he left to go over there, he was interviewed by the FBI as to what his intent was. Upon learning what he wanted to do, they let him go over there. He faces no criminal charges when he returns.

The other guy was a 29 year old Marine. He had served in Iraq before, and wanted to go join the fight and to see where some of his friends had fought and died at. He also was interviewed by the FBI before he left, and was allowed to go. He was there fighting for a short time, then returned home. He faces no criminal charges.

As the article states, they frown on Americans fighting in a foreign army, but as long as it isn't an enemy of the US, they don't try to punish them for it or stop them from doing so. Unless they commit a criminal act during their service with this foreign army, not much they can do I guess.

Onkel Neal 01-23-16 02:14 PM

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You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before.

Rahm Emanuel

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Aktungbby 01-23-16 02:21 PM

Quote:

but as long as it isn't an enemy of the US, they don't try to punish them for it or stop them from doing so. Unless they commit a criminal act during their service with this foreign army, not much they can do I guess.
You can bet they are debriefed info-wise against future necessity.:salute:

eddie 01-23-16 03:44 PM

Oh I am sure they get debriefed when they get back. Both mentioned the unreliability of some of the weapons they were given by the Kurds. The AK's worked ok, but the grenades were another matter. The 40 year old vet said you never knew if they would go off! not a good thing when the fighting is close quarters.

I'm sure there are guns for hire fighting there too, you know the old Soldiers of Fortune types.

Dan D 01-26-16 05:16 AM

Libya's recognized parliament rejects U.N.-backed unity government

Reuters:

"Since 2014, Libya has had two competing parliaments and governments, one based in Tripoli and the other in the east. Both are backed by loose alliances of armed groups and former rebels who helped topple Muammar Gaddafi in 2011.

Western powers hope a unity government will deliver stability and be able to tackle a growing threat from Islamic State militants.

Libya's internationally recognized parliament voted on Monday to reject a unity government proposed under a United Nations-backed plan to resolve the country's political crisis and armed conflict.

Though not a surprise, the rejection was a setback in efforts to heal Libya's deep divides. Of 104 members who attended the session in the eastern city of Tobruk, 89 voted against an administration nominated last week, demanding a new proposal within 10 days."

August 02-06-16 03:12 PM

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-refugees.html

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The Islamic State is infiltrating terrorists into Europe “disguised as refugees ”, the head of Germany’s domestic security service has said. The warning comes after an Algerian man was arrested at a refugee shelter on Thursday on suspicion of planning a terror attack in Berlin.

“We have seen repeatedly that terrorists are being smuggled in disguised or camouflaged as refugees,” Hans-Georg Maassen, the head of the Office for the Protection of the Constitution (BfV), said.


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