Originally Posted by Stealhead (Post 2043586)

I know exactly what you meant by it.I was making fun of it.

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 2043591)

Tried to anyways, you failed

Originally Posted by AndyJWest (Post 2043592)

I've finally figured it out - Bubblehead is in fact a Marxist mole planted on the forum to make the political right look stupid. Sadly, he's overdone it, and blown his cover. Better luck next time, comrade. :03:

Originally Posted by Tchocky (Post 2043582)

Two minutes separate these posts.

Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 2043603)

That's what entertains me the most about him. You read what he wrote, and you wonder if he's just like a really, really self aware person with a projection issue.

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 2043563)

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"

That is what the Second Amendment says, clear, plain, and simple. The second amendment says the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall NOT be infringed.Yes, it mentions militia but if you do some reading, you will find the founders also sought to facilitate the natural right of self preservation/defense, especially against tyranny, which they had lived under.They knew the nature of man, the nature of government, was to seek more and more power over time and diminish liberty.That is the spirit and purpose behind the second amendment and whole bill of rights, that is spelled out rather clearly in the above quoted line! To keep government at bay and protect the Republic.Sure, they could not imagine we would have such weaponry but they did not mention muskets or cannon etc because they knew things would advance and citizens should have proper weapons to guard against tyranny and protect one's life, liberty, and property.

The Heller decision says there is a "pre-existing right codified" in the Second Amendment which "protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home" Cruikshank was wrong and does not apply thanks to Heller, period.Quoting that decision, is a waste of time.

Quoting gun laws in Finland is absurd, they DO NOT apply, Finland is not the US, it has no value, no basis here in the US, the end.

Originally Posted by Kptlt. Hellmut Neuerburg (Post 2043619)

Well all you managed to accomplish was repeat the same thing for the millionth time, missing the entire point of why I had quoted Cruikshank and that I had obviously quoted Finnish gun laws because of their relevance to anything related to the 2nd Amendment. No wait that's right I used them as an example for something you probably didn't bother reading.

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 2043618)

I love how mookie tries to be some pseudo intellectual. My remarks were unrelated to the Thatcher quote as I was not insulted anyone in particular, I was describing the average obama voter which could only explain how such a joke based on his lackluster performance and easily researched shady background, manages to get elect.Same way other tyrants get to power, the rely on the less informed, intelligent etc in the population to go for them.This is why the appeal to EMOTION on all issues, from the economy, taxes, guns to everything, they never use facts etc The tired but useful "rich man with his foot on your neck" "white man keeping you down" etc etc . There are a lot of left wing types on here who hate that I won't back down and call them out.Some don't like my tone, they have some hang up about "civillity" on here.

Say what you want, give me a real argument against what I have said here, and we can discuss. On this issue, you can't, the second amendment is clear, the heller decision backs up what I am saying(perhaps not on registration etc specifically) and people with their heads on right, who value their individual rights and constitutional/natural right to self defense agree as well.Please try and avoid your insult and insinuations, show me I am wrong Mookie, please , please TRY. You can't. Everytime I see your name I think of The idiot spike lee played(which is not a stretch for him) in the movie "Do The Right Thing", but that is a different story and getting dangerously close to getting personal. Back on subject.Please, oh please, tell me A. How I am wrong on this.

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 2043620)

Cruikshank does not apply.See HELLER.

Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 2043603)

That's what entertains me the most about him. You read what he wrote, and you wonder if he's just like a really, really self aware person with a projection issue.

Originally Posted by Kptlt. Hellmut Neuerburg (Post 2043624)

Like I said you missed my point so I'll put it here and if you don't get it now you probably never will. "Has no other effect than to restrict the powers of the National Government."

Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 2043661)

But then you miss the exquisite comedy, you must admit that it is a very convincing parody of a reactionary nut case that he is playing.