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Skybird 05-23-19 04:27 AM

To think of what chance there would have been, with more spirit and determination and less care for EU blackmailing - and what has come of it instead, due to servility, cowardice and indifference for too long.



At least we get well entertained.


I fear for the ECB and EU presidencies having names seating that still refuse to learn the lesson and will push the EU even further towards centralism and super state.



And I fear Merkel going out - but not going really for sure. Her indications that she wants to "work for climate" after her term sounds like a menacing threat to me.

STEED 05-23-19 05:00 AM

If Boris wins the leadership he will let labour in at the next general election because he will arse up as PM.

BREAKING NEWS IF MAY WILL NOT STATE BY FRIDAY THE DAY OF HER DEPARTURE THERE WILL BE ANOTHER VOTE ON HER LEADERSHIP.

Jimbuna 05-23-19 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro (Post 2610883)
Rumor has it that PM May will step down in just a few more days ...

Hard to link on my hand held device, but is this good?

How can a new PM bring a better deal to the table?

She should be gone in a day or two yes but if not, almost definitely after the results of the EU elections are announced.

Her epitaph will make worse reading than that of David Cameron and that is quite some achievement imho. One of abject failure and betrayal of the people of the UK.

The next PM will inherit the same problems and I fear the only way forward now will be to hold a general election and possibly a revocation of Article 50.

Catfish 05-23-19 05:06 AM

You all speak a good lot about betrayal (echoing Farage), but betrayal has come from another side, and the result is intended.
Beware the great betrayal myth

again:

"Brexiteers declare that their simple plan has been wrecked by weaklings, quislings and fools. Brexit was designed by its most passionate supporters to fail:
its purpose was to be betrayed, to enable a new movement to rise up, animated by fury and fear.
Such a movement has now been born. It is already tearing the Conservative party to pieces. That, sad to say, is only the beginning of its plan."

Good article, because just how i see it :03::
Farage has polluted our democracy. Vote against him.

Jimbuna 05-23-19 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2610893)
^ A new PM cannot. Which is why Farage and his "brexit party" (lmao) will win. He (alone, no democracy here) will get out without a deal. Since there are no plans or visions for beyond he will then fail, but it will be too late.

Maybe the UK manages to tear down the EU with its 72 ministers and Farage trying to obliterate all just for the fun of it, trying to divide while bringing hate, xenophobia and nationalism to the EU parliament. Romania, Turkey, Hungary and Poland can then be happy, to a degree. But not for long.

The EU may have flaws, but what we see here is absolutely ridiculous.


"Just as Marxists insist true communism has never been tried, so Brexiteers declare that their simple plan has been wrecked by weaklings, quislings and fools. Brexit was designed by its most passionate supporters to fail: its purpose was to be betrayed, to enable a new movement to rise up, animated by fury and fear. Such a movement has now been born. It is already tearing the Conservative party to pieces. That, sad to say, is only the beginning of its plan."

Pretty much agree :yep:

STEED 05-23-19 05:06 AM

MORE BREAKING NEWS THERE WILL BE NO FOURTH VOTE ON THE WITHDRAW BILL...SKY NEWS.

Jimbuna 05-23-19 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEED (Post 2610906)

BREAKING NEWS IF MAY WILL NOT STATE BY FRIDAY THE DAY OF HER DEPARTURE THERE WILL BE ANOTHER VOTE ON HER LEADERSHIP.

Not quite accurate.

Quote:

On Wednesday, members of the Conservatives' backbench 1922 Committee held a secret ballot on whether to change party rules, to allow the prime minister to face a vote of no confidence immediately.

The results, in sealed envelopes, will be opened if Mrs May does not agree to stand down by 10 June.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48374841

STEED 05-23-19 05:10 AM

It was reported by Sky news jim.

Jimbuna 05-23-19 05:15 AM

I've more faith in the BBC and my political contact.

Jimbuna 05-23-19 08:11 AM

Just back from voting with the wife, should sleep a little sounder tonight :smug:

Jimbuna 05-23-19 10:05 AM

Quote:

Theresa May shelves plans to publish Brexit Withdrawal bill following Cabinet mutiny.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brexi...id=mailsignout
This situation just gets more and more farcical with each passing hour.

MGR1 05-23-19 01:15 PM

It appears the main driving force behind Scottish Secretary of State Mundell's opposition to May's deal is the possibility of a second EU referendum. He and a few of his (unnamed) colleagues in the Cabinet are opposed due to the possibility of making an opening for the SNP to demand a second Indyref.

Even if a second referendum was to come to pass the Scottish branch of the Tory party would be bitterly opposed to it for that reason.:hmmm:

Anyway, we aren't going to find out who Scotland's new MEP's are until Monday at the earliest. Not because of Italy having it's vote on Sunday but because the local authorities in the Western Isles won't do anything on the Sabbath so no ballot counting will take place until Monday.....:doh:

Mike.

STEED 05-23-19 01:52 PM

I voted early to get it over with before I changed my mind. No more to say on this one until all the results are in Monday.



Just to add a friend of mine agreed if Boris wins Labour wins the GE because Boris will make a pigs ear of it.

BossMark 05-24-19 02:53 AM

Ministers expect Theresa May to reveal No 10 departure date on Friday

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48385696


Is this the end for maybot, or will she try and hold on she is more stubbern than a whole field of mules...

Catfish 05-24-19 03:15 AM

^ well if England is not able to present another PM than Boris or Farage it is quite clear what will happen.
Imho this is not in the best interest of the people to say at least, but at least people will then see who is responsible for the mess and how competent they are.

Jimbuna 05-24-19 04:20 AM

May will resign on Friday 7th June.

I doubt she will be missed by many if any.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48395905

Skybird 05-24-19 04:21 AM

June 7th.


Why. Not. Now. Should at least her withdrawel go according to her glorious plans?


Well, who cares.


P.S. Ooops, Jim beat me by a second. I will never delay a post again for just correcting a typo. From now on, you guys have to live with them.

Jimbuna 05-24-19 04:26 AM

If your not fast, your last :03:

Besides, the announcement was about ten minutes earlier coming up on my phone whilst I was in the shower :)

STEED 05-24-19 04:44 AM

Next up Boris wins

Boris arses up

Jeremy wins the General election

BossMarks gets drunk

Jim leaves the country

STEED keeps on moaning

And Sky & Cat settle their EU differences with a duel with pistols

Jimbuna 05-24-19 04:53 AM

Actually, the wife and I were tentatively considering a move abroad now that the kids are up and gone a few years back before the whole Brexit farce began.

If it is ever settled I'm wondering if those discussions will come up again, the wife reckons not.


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