Maybe I'll try to survive this by playing in SH3.:yawn:

Reading through the replies I seems to me that the discussion is focussed on having an reliable internet connection or not.
Frankly I don't believe that is the bottom line and only issue being discussed at this forum.

Let me try to summarize the 3 major issues being discussed:

Issue 1:
The issue is not having or lacking such connection, it's about needing such connection when you want to play the game or while playing the game.

Issue 2:
Mandatory saving you games online.

Issue 3:
The content of the game.


For me are issue 1 and 2 of more importance then issue 3.
Issue 3 I can only judge about after having played the game.

Which issue someone else bothers the most is up to him/her.

Why are many ppl blaming UBI?
In my opinion is this because UBI punishes the legal gamers instead of the pirates. And that's unfair, the least to say.

Also:
UBI is an easier target to blame than those anonymous pirates.
It's a predictable reaction.

In 2003 we had here in Germany an anti-piracy campaign with this poster:know:

http://blogs.taz.de/wp-inst/wp-conte...opierer_09.jpg

He says:
"I will never use pirate copies, I'd rather chase me a bullet through my head"

Interesting read about DRM. link http://savygamer.co.uk/2010/02/01/di...-state-of-drm/

Yes, but in this case, bullet was alredy fired, and not in the pirates.:down:

Wow. This news is really a downer. A buddy of mine, we were roommates back in the old SH2 days, is an avid (I'd say addicted) SHIII player. In fact I just got a patrol report from him this morning. This is going to crush him.

Personally, I think online authentication is overkill, but I have a cable connection 24/7 and it doesn't interfere much. My buddy, however, does not have cable and does not have an internet connection. Why? Despite Neal's comment, he does not live in a double-wide, but simply can't afford it. Now he's going to have to decide whether to shell out for an internet connection with his already stretched budget. That's just !@#$%

Oh, and furthermore, the online storage of saved games really worries me since a lot of us get into these sims for years. Is Ubi going to keep maintaining the servers (for free) for years?

This has been said before but... I have no doubt that after a while a patch will be released to allow us to play offline. Don't forget that Ubi made a patch to remove the need for Starforce. So, there's still hope yet.

As for your friend, yeah, big blow. The actual bandwith used might not be high. I use a mobile phone modem for my laptop and it's actually not that bad. But prices vary from country to country... Anyway, your friend should get internet, not just to play SH5, but to join us on Subsim :salute:

Yeah, I tease him endlessly about all the stuff he's missing on the Net and cableTV :DL

Issue 4:
The fact not everyone has a stable connection, or a connection at all. Making it a requirement effectively takes away the option to buy or not from some.

Yes, it's a minority, and no, I'm not part of it. Doesn't mean noone should care about them... Ubi certainly isn't. (yes, I know, business decision)

@Arclight
Thank you for your replying.

I wasn't forgetting the problems one (might) experience when the connection isn't stable.

However the reason of needing a stable connection is not the root cause of the problem. It is UBI's decision of needing a connection at all.

When they would drop the need for an online connection when starting up the game or while playing the game, the unstable (or not having access) connections wouldn't be a problem.

Thus in my point of view, is the source of all connection problems described in issue 3.

Just adding/pointing out the issue I have the most dfficulty with. ;)

I'm not arguing against the other points, I agree wholeheartedly. The issue has been beaten to death though; I'd rather see people taking this up with Ubi directly, instead of complaining on a public board.

That said, I'm sure their inbox is already flooded with these complaints. :lol:

I guess too, let's hope they do care about our worries.
Meanwhile, I play SHIII:DL

No, SH4 is better.

Sorry, couldn't resist - just had to pretend to start another off-topic argument. Everybody look the other way. You didn't see this. I wasn't here blah blah blah blah blah.