Re: who likes guns?!
 

I was just making a suggestion since a P7 would make a nice addition to my collection! :P

A 9mm is a good plinker. Make sure you get 147 gr ammo for it though since 115 gr has been proven ineffective in taking down a bad guy (according to the FBI). I can recall the guy the police shot 32 times with 115 gr and he still didn't die! 115 gr is good for plinking however! Found it for $4 a box last time I was in AZ, so we bought 1000 rds and grabbed a Glock 18, and 3 MP5's and took off to the desert!

-S

Re: who likes guns?!
 

I Never had a Gun. But the German P38 Looks Quite Cool. But Even if i may buy it Someday, i will Have no ammo for it cos i only want It cos it was the Commanders Gun on a U-Boat. The Commanders gun was a P38 Wasn't it? :hmm:

probably a walther.

Pics? Links? Were can i LEGALLY Buy one?

Stupid idea, wrong place for that.

Sorry.

Legally buy one? Pretty much anywhere in the US.

What country are you in?

-S

I'm in Austria. Thats Pretty Much Like Germany.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austria

This is my weapon and this is my gun(holding crotch). This is for killing and this is for fun.

Do they allow you to own anything in Austria?

-S

I used to be a gun nut.

7 years in the mililtar cured me of that. Now while i don't particularly hate them, im not all that enthusiastic about them either. It's a tool for a job, and it has to be cleaned and maintained. (thats the part that cured me of my enthusiasm).

For home defense, id prefer a short barreled pump action shotgun sans plug, with an extended magazine tube that extends the length of the barrel. Must be able to shoot up to 3 inch high brass magnum w/ a buckshot load.

For target shooting, if i could afford it, id get an M14. Very nice solid piece.

Never was much for sidearms, but i suppose id enjoy your standard 9mm military issue pieces. Never was much on Dirty harry, although as a special intrest piece, id love to have some old colt navy's to target shoot with.


As a primary duty weapon, i think id prefer an AK74, since its the most modern AK varient im aware of. I honestly never did like M16's all that much. (ive used A1's, A2's and M4's) Sure the magazines are lighter, and their more accurate at range, but ive found them far too tempermental to the enviorment, you have to keep those rifles immaculate. of all the M16's If i HAD to use one, i think id take an A1 with the forward assist and a 30 round magazine.

AK-101 (5.56x45 NATO)
AK-103 (7.62mm x 39mm)
AK-107 (5.45 x 39 mm)
AK-108 (5.56 x 45 mm NATO)

;)

Yeah i went to gun.ru and found that out right after i made my last post. :D

I don't keep up on firearms that much anymore. Hell, i dont own anything but a shotgun, and that is for bird hunting :roll:

One of thse days im going to buy that home defense shotgun like ive been wanting, but i always find other things that need my monitary attention more.

My father's like "why that shotgun" (and he owns ALOT of firearms) i told him its better to have one and not need it, then to need it and not have it.

My wife wants a handgun, but id rather a shotgun for 2 reasons.

1. LIttle to no aiming required, (as compared to a handgun), your most likely to hit your intruder.

2. less penetration. Id rather not a stray round go through a wall and hit one of my neighbors.

Primary advatnage to a handgun is it would be better in close quarters, but most home defense shotguns are short enough to where its not too much of an issue.

A Marlin .22 my dad gave me for my 12th birthday.

A Marlin .30-30 I bought for myself when I was 18.

A Mossberg 12 Ga. auto to replace the Mossberg 12 Ga. pump my crack-head ex-girlfriend stole to buy crack.

A .45 Auto, because no man should be without a .45.

Various .22 handguns because of their sheer utility.

This is probably all I really need for the rest of my life but I want several more:

Something for long range, like a Ruger No.1 7mm Remington Magnum with a scope that cost more than the rifle.

Something for big bears or engine blocks like a Marlin .45-70.

And if I ever got rich: a Blaser Bock-drilling.

Gun control means hitting your target.

Cheers,

JBC

This would be fun, i just dont know if you can get a licence for it here :) http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/sh07-e.htm

If I ever do purchase a firearm that is the one I’m going for. :up:

These i would also like to own. The SAKO Rk-95 http://world.guns.ru/assault/as43-e.htm , IMI Micro-Galil http://world.guns.ru/assault/as23-e.htm, H&K MP5 http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg14-e.htm , AS50 http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn67-e.htm , SAKO TRG 42 http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn22-e.htm , Pecheneg http://world.guns.ru/machine/mg30-e.htm .. :D After i edited the M4A1 and Barret of the list, no US weapons remain, funny thing. :oops:

One thing about that AK-74 is that gas line. Touch it the wrong way and your whole gun is screwed which is its biggest weakness. Of course, most of the AK's I shot are typically very reliable in any environment.

THis brings me to the M-16 and AR-15 I agree that some of them are tempermental, but what I have found is that the gas port and how it connects to the bolt is what causes any M-16 or AR-15 to be tempermental. Mine is perfect so I never have a jam in any kind of climate / weather / conditions. It works regardless of how crammed up with junk it is no problem. The only other real issue I have seen is magazines. My old Colt mags suck and will jam once in a while, but the Bushmaster with the green follower work flawlessly time and time again. What I have is in effect a well operating gun that I would bet my life on.

I did come across one time of an M-16 that was purchased by a friend of mine. It was completely as tempermental as you say. At first it was thought that tiny bits of sand from the AZ desert was the cause and it was even put through the sonic cleaners to no effect. Even though the gas port looked fine, it was readjusted anyway and it turned out to be the cuase. Now you can fill that thing with muck and grime and put 3000 rounds through in a a few hours and it still won't jam. Matter of fact, I don't ever remember even having to force the bolt closed after putting a ton of ammo through it.

Yes I agree - cleaning sucks and that is why I don't care to go shooting much either anymore because of the hours of cleaning afterwards. I need to buy one of those sonic cleaners I think. My friend just pops his stuff apart, drops it in, and comes back later to a perfectly cleaned part. It makes me sick that I am cleaning and he is off doing whatever while his stuff gets cleaned for him!

-S

PS. Go try a fully auto Kirkov if you ever get the chance. Though it is not the most accurate thing, it throws a flame like nothing else!

This is my shotgun. Mossberg model 590

http://www.globalhunt.es/imagesref/AAE101022.gif

You got the bayonet for that? Might even be useful in a home invasion type of scenario.. Werent you
ex SF? Nice supprise for the one that brakes in the house with you and that arsenal :lol:

I grew up with guns in the house

22 nylon 66
300 magnum
357 magnum pistol

qualified in the USN on

45 auto pistol
12 guage pump
Thompson 45 submachinegun
M-14
M-16
M-60 LMG
(Nuclear Weapons Security Alert Team)

I didn't own a firearm from 1978 to 2004 when I took my latest job maintaining Microwave radio sites on the mountaintops of New Mexico. After seeing the Grizzley Bear signs at San Antonio Mtn(Big Dents on the walls and roof of the site), I bought a nice Romanian folding-stock AK-47(7.62) with 2 30 round clips(the same gun Bin-Laden uses in the file footage). Since I'm usually 200 mile from home, I bought the wife her weapon of choice, a Mossberg 12-guage pump.

Of course, I may start buying more assault weapons if Bush & Cheney keep doing what their doing. The 2nd amendment was drafted as the ultimate popular check on governmental power.